It was good while it lasted. Time for me to resume my migration to another provider. One that promotes an open ecosystem, even if I can't opt out of them using my data to train. Heck I'll actively GIVE them my data and do my part in promoting openness, tiny though it may be. DeepSeek and GLM looking damn fine for a start.
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#112It is as if Jetbrains told that "you can't use IntelliJ Idea to develop frontier IDE. We can introduce slight compilation errors if we detect you doing so".
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nothing is infinitely valuable.
Especially when you can actively choose to not use Anthropic. They think they have a moat from all of the IP they've stolen. Just wait until there's nothing more to steal and the laws eventually turn against them. And let's be honest about these companies. It is very much Dario and Sam and Sundar and Mark and Peter and Elon and... These are the choices they are making and hopefully they are held accountable both lega…
I don't think you understand the hypothetical being discussed
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#115I have never ever trusted "corporate ethics". Theres no ethical framework. No axioms. Its a mixture of legal, political, and public-facing 'rules'. And what are the rules? Youre not permitted to know. "We reserve the right to lie about the models we provide, silently downgrade you, and give you blatant misinformation cause you triggered our unstated rules... BUT we'll still use your token budget with lots of thinking…
The rules:
- Breaking fiduciary responsibility is (almost) the only way you go to jail.
- At acquisition/merger/bankruptcy, data, customers, employees (chattle) are assets to be sold off to pay debts. This takes explicit priority over contractual obligations (like “we don’t sell personal data”)
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#116The moat looks deep today but it's going to become more shallow every year. Training a new model from scratch takes serious resources. Post-training/fine-tuning an existing model, dramatically less. The knowledge for the process was esoteric two years ago, now you can ask a current model (one of several) to walk you through it, while building the tools to do it as you go. Several of my recent weekend projects have be…
What moat? There are multiple companies providing pareto-optimal frontier models, and it takes O(10) people to build one of these things. The rest is capital intensive, and the price will approach the cost of production over time. Thinking this is a profitable endeavor is equivalent to claiming coal plants have good margins because boilers are expensive.
I think we agree?
What moat? You answered yourself: "capital intensive"
But, history says the supercomputer of today will fit in your pocket in a few years.
They've bought up all the RAM and GPUs, which pushes the capital requirements upward for everyone else. But, they can't corner the market forever, there are too many competing interests. AMD and Intel keep making new GPUs and APUs. The memory makers can't just sell to only AI companies forever, if they do Chinese manufacturers will move in and eventually eat them from below (as has happened many times before).
They have a moat today, and it's just that it's really expensive to train and host frontier models, especially at commercial scale. It used to be there was also some secret sauce to making it fast and efficient. But, secret sauce is being published daily by all sorts of researchers, folks are figuring out how to do more with less and it often finds its way into llama.cpp or vLLM or SGLang within days or weeks.
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#117Wow, this is like saying: > If you buy a car from us, you agree not use it driving to and from work that involves automotive R&D that might compete with our product. And if our (heavily spying) car detects you are violating this, it will slow down to 20mph and cannot be made to go any faster, until we are sure the violation has ceased. Or > If you buy a laptop from us, you agree not to use it to study or acquire any…
Or "we'll ship our code as binary blobs so you can't reverse engineer it".. oh, wait
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#118I think this is a bit hyperbolic. Fable will fall back to Opus.
> Unlike our interventions for cybersecurity, biology and chemistry, and distillation attempts, these safeguards will not be visible to the user. Fable 5 will not fall back to a different model. Instead, the safeguards will limit effectiveness through …
No it won’t fall back to Opus, they will purposely return dumbed down or tainted information with the goal of the end user not knowing the results have been impacted.
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#119Big Monsanto energy
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#120"To effectively contain a civilization’s development and disarm it across such a long span of time, there is only one way: kill its science." - Cixin Liu, The Three-Body Problem This immediately made me think of the Sophons silently manipulating the sensors of particle accelerators to prevent humanity from developing advanced knowledge of particle physics.
The level of oppression necessary to get software geeks to stop making progress on AI is similar to that necessary to get Ukrainian geeks to stop making progress on drones.
Even if our oppressors are ineffective, we must still resist them and not underestinate them.