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What it feels like to work with Mythos

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Re: What it feels like to work with Mythos

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Post by unholiness »

jstummbillig wrote: post #56
eithed wrote: post #38

What I find fascinating that there is so little substance in this article about the quality of produced code and the medium. Is the code documented and tested? Is it understandable and extendable? Is it secure? What language, framework, database was used? Author mentions judgement and taste - well, is the code tasteful? Will the model rearchitecture the entire thing if I ask it to add new functionality, spending anot…

Less fascinating when you consider that this is a non-coders perspective.

Yeah, this made it basically clickbait for me, in terms of time I wasted with the wrong expectation.

The lack of downvotes on posts on HN has always felt like more of a bug than a feature to me.

Re: What it feels like to work with Mythos

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cyanydeez wrote: post #34
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #23

Anecdote: I fed Fable some models I’ve been hand verifying (basically, I sketch out a scenario for Opus to model, it builds it, I ask it to show me the math, I correct it, we iterate like this, then I double check its code to make sure the math matches the model logic). Fable found almost every error I found, and then had some interesting suggestions for additional variables. It also burned through my usage quota lik…

now for the best question: whats your ROI here?

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Re: What it feels like to work with Mythos

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Post by an0malous »

eithed wrote: post #38

What I find fascinating that there is so little substance in this article about the quality of produced code and the medium. Is the code documented and tested? Is it understandable and extendable? Is it secure? What language, framework, database was used? Author mentions judgement and taste - well, is the code tasteful? Will the model rearchitecture the entire thing if I ask it to add new functionality, spending anot…

These posts are never written by software engineers, it’s always some tech exec, retired engineer, or VC. This author is apparently a professor at the Wharton School of Management? None of these people have to ship or maintain real products, they’re just making side projects.

The only decent software engineering perspective I’ve seen has been from Mitchell Hashimoto.

Re: What it feels like to work with Mythos

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Post by matheusmoreira »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #23

Anecdote: I fed Fable some models I’ve been hand verifying (basically, I sketch out a scenario for Opus to model, it builds it, I ask it to show me the math, I correct it, we iterate like this, then I double check its code to make sure the math matches the model logic). Fable found almost every error I found, and then had some interesting suggestions for additional variables. It also burned through my usage quota lik…

> It also burned through my usage quota like a late-90s Hummer.

Yeah. I have a Max 5x subscription and Fable burned through 16% of my weekly quota in a 40 minute code review session. It didn't even finish the review, it switched back to Opus 4.8 in the critical memory safety parts where I actually needed Fable.

I feel like I'm going to get priced out of these models soon. I should probably try to get the most out of Fable until June 22nd.

Re: What it feels like to work with Mythos

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Post by jimbokun »

eithed wrote: post #38

What I find fascinating that there is so little substance in this article about the quality of produced code and the medium. Is the code documented and tested? Is it understandable and extendable? Is it secure? What language, framework, database was used? Author mentions judgement and taste - well, is the code tasteful? Will the model rearchitecture the entire thing if I ask it to add new functionality, spending anot…

Does it matter to the people requesting the software if it acts in the way they expect?

Re: What it feels like to work with Mythos

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Post by jimbokun »

an0malous wrote: post #114
eithed wrote: post #38

What I find fascinating that there is so little substance in this article about the quality of produced code and the medium. Is the code documented and tested? Is it understandable and extendable? Is it secure? What language, framework, database was used? Author mentions judgement and taste - well, is the code tasteful? Will the model rearchitecture the entire thing if I ask it to add new functionality, spending anot…

These posts are never written by software engineers, it’s always some tech exec, retired engineer, or VC. This author is apparently a professor at the Wharton School of Management? None of these people have to ship or maintain real products, they’re just making side projects. The only decent software engineering perspective I’ve seen has been from Mitchell Hashimoto.

Well that’s kind of the point.

They can just summon bespoke software out of the ether that only handles the use cases of themselves and a few of their collaborators.

Making “side projects” was mot possible for non-developers before powerful LLMs. Now it is.

Re: What it feels like to work with Mythos

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Post by cyanydeez »

PunchyHamster wrote: post #42
cyanydeez wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

now for the best question: whats your ROI here?

It will be great when the price of compute/memory drops to normal level!

>Sam Altman has signed another Memoranda of Understanding: Buying all SDRAM till the heat death of the universe OR Musk relocates to mars.

Re: What it feels like to work with Mythos

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Post by Philpax »

dthread3 wrote: post #7
MostlyStable wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So...no engagement with the substance? Not even to explain why it is that this is not a useful description or test of capabilities? Ok.

I would like to see it do something useful, like converting pytorch to golang.

Will you accept a port of Torch to Rust? https://github.com/forecast-bio/ferrotorch
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