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CEOs who think AI replaces their employees are just bad CEOs

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Re: CEOs who think AI replaces their employees are just bad CEOs

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A custom-built AI would be pretty good at replacing a CEO. Think of all the things a company could do if they reduced overhead by that much?

While I agree that AIs would do a good job… Would you rather take instructions from a ruthless robot or ruthless flesh sack?

The flesh sack is choosing to be an insufferable twat, and the robot either doesn't have any choice or has a decent statistical justification for what it does.

Re: CEOs who think AI replaces their employees are just bad CEOs

#32

A custom-built AI would be pretty good at replacing a CEO. Think of all the things a company could do if they reduced overhead by that much?

While I agree that AIs would do a good job… Would you rather take instructions from a ruthless robot or ruthless flesh sack?

Weirdly enough, I'd take the robot. At least we can pretend the robot doesn't know any better. The human is actively choosing to be a dick and profiting off it.

Re: CEOs who think AI replaces their employees are just bad CEOs

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CEOs do get there with lots of politics in almost all cases. It’s all about who’s ass you kiss and who’s ass you don’t and if you’re lucky with timing things might just fall into place. I think it’s exceedingly rare that a CEO is actually competent at their job. In most cases it’s the labor class propping the company up, and in some cases the workers are doing so against the wishes of the CEO. Not that executives wan…

You’re making the case for worker-owned cooperatives. Love it — we need more of them!

The problem is that knowing the right people to get investment does seem to have utility coops struggle to get, I think? maybe CEOs are basically like producers on movies who are just there to network for you.

Re: CEOs who think AI replaces their employees are just bad CEOs

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CEOs do get there with lots of politics in almost all cases. It’s all about who’s ass you kiss and who’s ass you don’t and if you’re lucky with timing things might just fall into place. I think it’s exceedingly rare that a CEO is actually competent at their job. In most cases it’s the labor class propping the company up, and in some cases the workers are doing so against the wishes of the CEO. Not that executives wan…

You’re making the case for worker-owned cooperatives. Love it — we need more of them!

Don’t you still need someone to make high level decisions?

Re: CEOs who think AI replaces their employees are just bad CEOs

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CEOs do get there with lots of politics in almost all cases. It’s all about who’s ass you kiss and who’s ass you don’t and if you’re lucky with timing things might just fall into place. I think it’s exceedingly rare that a CEO is actually competent at their job. In most cases it’s the labor class propping the company up, and in some cases the workers are doing so against the wishes of the CEO. Not that executives wan…

You’re making the case for worker-owned cooperatives. Love it — we need more of them!

I'm very sympathetic to cooperatives, have traveled/know the Mondragon people (largest coop federation), etc.

However, I think there's a reason why coops seem to succeed at smaller scales, but there are essentially no large innovative coops.

There are a few large boring coops, and some small innovative ones, but seemingly something is making the CEO/investor board model the one large innovative companies are all using.

I suspect that it's both (1) access to capital is far harder for coops, and (2) that workplace democracy and hardcore mission focus aren't fully compatible. That is, "you cannot serve two masters" without losing focus on one of them.

Re: CEOs who think AI replaces their employees are just bad CEOs

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You don't need custom built anything, ChatGPT could generate corporate initiatives and PR statements all day and no one would notice.

100% been saying this for a while now. the main thing AI will be able to replace is a C suite.

it's kind of like saying like you could replace a king with an AI. the position is a relationship to power more than it is a function with a productive output.

a bad king and a bad CEO could be replaced with a spinning top with no loss in productivity (and maybe some gain).

Re: CEOs who think AI replaces their employees are just bad CEOs

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You’re making the case for worker-owned cooperatives. Love it — we need more of them!

Don’t you still need someone to make high level decisions?

Worker owned cooperatives have a variety of ways of doing this. Voting directly, electing people, etc. The main difference is that the cooperative typically doesn't buy the myth that the person making the high level decision needs to be paid 1000x the workers.

Re: CEOs who think AI replaces their employees are just bad CEOs

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Reminds me of the old joke "90% of the code is 90% of the work. The last 10% of the code is the other 90% of the work."

I have spent almost my entire adult life (since 1986) shipping products. One of the very first things that I learned, was that "shipping" > "designing".

There's so much work in delivering products that will carry your brand, and then must be supported.

I liken it to having children. Conceiving them is fun. Delivering them is painful. Raising them, is a lifetime of work.

In my experience, the same type of thing applies to products that we ship (and charge money for).

Re: CEOs who think AI replaces their employees are just bad CEOs

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A custom-built AI would be pretty good at replacing a CEO. Think of all the things a company could do if they reduced overhead by that much?

Who takes responsibility when the AI does something unethical or illegal? Do we put the computer in jail? Or do we just look the other way like we do with human CEOs?

To be fair here, CEO dont take responsibility and dont go to jail. In rare case they do, they will be pardoned.
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