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GPT-2: Too Dangerous To Release (2019)

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Re: GPT-2: Too Dangerous To Release (2019)

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FabCH wrote: post #46
nonethewiser wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the astronomical social damage that this has caused? I am having so much trouble relating to and even understanding what the anti-AI crowd's position is. It looks like a caricature to me.

The president of the United States tweeted an AI generated image of himself as Jesus Christ descending from the sky and saving a sick person. I feel like that is a good example. Now multiply that by hundreds of millions of AI generated propaganda images across the world. And that’s even without touching the effect of fake videos on democracy or Elons pedo-bot that generates CSAM on demand of specific people…

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Re: GPT-2: Too Dangerous To Release (2019)

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Post by ge96 »

FabCH wrote: post #46
nonethewiser wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the astronomical social damage that this has caused? I am having so much trouble relating to and even understanding what the anti-AI crowd's position is. It looks like a caricature to me.

The president of the United States tweeted an AI generated image of himself as Jesus Christ descending from the sky and saving a sick person. I feel like that is a good example. Now multiply that by hundreds of millions of AI generated propaganda images across the world. And that’s even without touching the effect of fake videos on democracy or Elons pedo-bot that generates CSAM on demand of specific people…

Hard to beat shrimp jesus

Re: GPT-2: Too Dangerous To Release (2019)

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Post by stackghost »

cjjfjjfjf wrote: post #6

In hindsight, they were entirely correct. The social damage caused by low cost content generation that’s hard to distinguish from human authorship is astronomical. You don’t need to entertain the more ridiculous doomsday scenarios to wish that this technology had never been created.

>In hindsight, they were entirely correct.

Sure but when serial grifter Sam Altman said it was "too dangerous" what he meant was that he wanted regulators to create him an artificial competitive moat so Anthropic et al couldn't catch up.

Serial grifter Sam Altman does not care about anything but making money, and certainly doesn't care about ethics. That's why serial grifter Sam Altman's company trained its models on pirated textbooks and copyrighted works without paying. Rules for thee but not for me.

Serial grifter Sam Altman doesn't care if society unravels because he is so rich that laws and consequences do not apply to him.

Re: GPT-2: Too Dangerous To Release (2019)

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Post by larodi »

qurren wrote: post #32
cjjfjjfjf wrote: post #6

In hindsight, they were entirely correct. The social damage caused by low cost content generation that’s hard to distinguish from human authorship is astronomical. You don’t need to entertain the more ridiculous doomsday scenarios to wish that this technology had never been created.

On the other hand, maybe it makes people just get off the internet and value in-person interactions more. I've stopped scrolling social media and tired of seeing fake landscapes, fake foods, and fake cities that don't exist.

Indeed, people seem to try to engage more around me. May be generational, but it can definitely be felt. The internet of algorithmic media may experience a downfall nobody saw coming.

Re: GPT-2: Too Dangerous To Release (2019)

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Post by PhunkyPhil »

nonethewiser wrote: post #30
cjjfjjfjf wrote: post #6

In hindsight, they were entirely correct. The social damage caused by low cost content generation that’s hard to distinguish from human authorship is astronomical. You don’t need to entertain the more ridiculous doomsday scenarios to wish that this technology had never been created.

What is the astronomical social damage that this has caused? I am having so much trouble relating to and even understanding what the anti-AI crowd's position is. It looks like a caricature to me.

School is almost a joke now. The fraction of students who have a propensity to cheat now has increased, and the accuracy of the cheated material is so good teachers/professors can't or don't have the resources to properly address it.

Re: GPT-2: Too Dangerous To Release (2019)

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Post by hk__2 »

FabCH wrote: post #46
nonethewiser wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the astronomical social damage that this has caused? I am having so much trouble relating to and even understanding what the anti-AI crowd's position is. It looks like a caricature to me.

The president of the United States tweeted an AI generated image of himself as Jesus Christ descending from the sky and saving a sick person. I feel like that is a good example. Now multiply that by hundreds of millions of AI generated propaganda images across the world. And that’s even without touching the effect of fake videos on democracy or Elons pedo-bot that generates CSAM on demand of specific people…

> The president of the United States tweeted an AI generated image of himself as Jesus Christ descending from the sky and saving a sick person. I feel like that is a good example.

I feel like this is the worst example, actually, because here it’s 100% clear to anyone that it’s AI-generated content. The danger is more about AI-generated fake images/videos disguised as real content.

Re: GPT-2: Too Dangerous To Release (2019)

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Post by root-parent »

cjjfjjfjf wrote: post #6

In hindsight, they were entirely correct. The social damage caused by low cost content generation that’s hard to distinguish from human authorship is astronomical. You don’t need to entertain the more ridiculous doomsday scenarios to wish that this technology had never been created.

Countries without Internet access will see their population IQ explode.

Re: GPT-2: Too Dangerous To Release (2019)

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Post by thewebguyd »

panzi wrote: post #25
Qhemlomo wrote: post #19

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I don't want to stop progress just because its hard to imagine how it will transform our society. I want to see a Star Trek economy/society in my lifetime. I only life once. Btw. AI/LLM/Machine learning is the gateway technology for robotics, this will affect even more.

It's the wrong way around. If we get AGI (or any well working AI) before we abandon capitalism it's going to be a huge disaster. A handful of even richer even more powerful very greedy people will have all the wealth and everyone else will have nothing. I mean, there was a WW3 in Star Trek, so maybe it was that path that humanity took in Star Trek anyway?

> so maybe it was that path that humanity took in Star Trek anyway?

It was (aside from first contact, and the subsequent development of the replicator which enabled the post scarcity economy). The federation was built from the war, not after it.

Suffering is what made the utopia possible, and if ever get to the point of nearing a post scarcity economy, we are likely to experience the same. Progress is built on catastrophe. Whether or not you call it progress depends on if you are born later after the catastrophe and can look back and call it progress, or if you lived through the suffering without seeing the end result.

Re: GPT-2: Too Dangerous To Release (2019)

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Post by tempestn »

FabCH wrote: post #46
nonethewiser wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the astronomical social damage that this has caused? I am having so much trouble relating to and even understanding what the anti-AI crowd's position is. It looks like a caricature to me.

The president of the United States tweeted an AI generated image of himself as Jesus Christ descending from the sky and saving a sick person. I feel like that is a good example. Now multiply that by hundreds of millions of AI generated propaganda images across the world. And that’s even without touching the effect of fake videos on democracy or Elons pedo-bot that generates CSAM on demand of specific people…

I honestly feel like that's a counter-example. With AI he'd be tweeting some other nonsense. It's not like anyone saw the image and thought he actually was orange Jesus.

Re: GPT-2: Too Dangerous To Release (2019)

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Post by tintor »

pixl97 wrote: post #34
Qhemlomo wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want to stop progress just because its hard to imagine how it will transform our society. I want to see a Star Trek economy/society in my lifetime. I only life once. Btw. AI/LLM/Machine learning is the gateway technology for robotics, this will affect even more.

>I want to see a Star Trek economy/society in my lifetime. I only life once. While Star Trek is fiction, it's probably a good idea to understand the history of how the ST utopia came about, at the cost of a third of the worlds population and decades of suffering. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/World_War_III

"World War III was the last of Earth's three world wars, lasting from approximately 2026 to 2053."
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