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Re: Ask HN: Are you still using a Vision Pro?

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Post by dmitshur »

I'm using it ocassionally - whenever I have time to do further WebXR development beyond what I've already done, and when an interesting new immersive video or 3D movie becomes available on it. I'll sometimes use it to relax and catch up on any new VR180 videos on youtube.

For other work or entertainment that doesn't take advantage of its spatial features, I tend to revert to using a computer with an external display. The display in the Vision Pro cannot quite match the resolution and HDR headroom of the external display I ended up having (a Pro Display XDR). Maybe if it didn't get outclassed by my external display when displaying 2D content, I'd have additional motivation to use it more often.

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using a Vision Pro?

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Post by ChoGGi »

orimirs wrote: post #38
curiouscavalier wrote: post #22

having developed multiple apps on it and tried every which way to use it (as an XR enthusiast in general), I have never been so happy to put a headset up on the shelf and never pull it out again. using as a spatial monitor was cool. for about 10min until my neck got tired of the added weight. but I’ll give credit that those 10min were pretty cool.

Is there a headset you like use for prolonged periods?

I don't have any issue going a couple hours with my HP reverb g2, it is wired though, and I imagine quite a bit lighter.

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using a Vision Pro?

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Post by nkrisc »

bijowo1676 wrote: post #9

unless Apple allows adult content applications on Vision Pro its future is doomed. There are only two first-adopters for any new technology: military and adult industry. Without these you wont get any traction

You can watch porn on devices most people already have.

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using a Vision Pro?

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Post by Caracas288 »

wvenable wrote: post #45
curiouscavalier wrote: post #22

having developed multiple apps on it and tried every which way to use it (as an XR enthusiast in general), I have never been so happy to put a headset up on the shelf and never pull it out again. using as a spatial monitor was cool. for about 10min until my neck got tired of the added weight. but I’ll give credit that those 10min were pretty cool.

Since it's tethered anyway for the battery, I think Apple made a mistake just not building it as a (smart) monitor tethered to a separate PC. Imagine if the vision pro could just be plugged into a small compute module with a battery or just plugged directly into a Macbook. It would be lighter, cheaper, and more flexible. I think a lot more people would have been interested in it.

Yes, make the battery 2x bigger and include the compute in that.

It would be so cool to be able to plug in arbitrary input devices too, like a dvd player, but its understandable that others don’t feel this way, and it would totally not be an apple product if it did this.

One of their main imposed constraints was clearly to make the battery pocketable, which sadly precludes a lot of things which would have made it a better product, in favour of wider acceptability.

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using a Vision Pro?

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Post by sublinear »

jotux wrote: post #18
sublinear wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A buddy let me try his Vision Pro, but I instead bought USB C display glasses. I just use them as a second display, not the AR experience you're probably thinking of. I don't specify which brand or model because I have gone through several pairs since then. They're all about the same and somewhat flimsy, but worth it for the reduced bulk.

>but I instead bought USB C display glasses How did you use these? Did you like them?

I like them a lot and carry them as one would with headphones. My use case is boring and I mostly plug them into my phone and laptops, but they "just work" on most devices made in the last few years. I use them any time I'm stuck sitting somewhere for more than about 15 minutes.

With this form factor, the main limitation is physical user input, not compatibility or fatigue. There's no battery or adapters or walled garden to mess around with. I would not be opposed to a touch pad or gesture system if it actually worked reliably and didn't require accessories or excessive motion from me.

For now, they're literally just a screen in a pair of glasses, and that's all I ever wanted. I'm sure there will be improvements to this category, but any product that strays from this core functionality will be a hard pass from me.

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using a Vision Pro?

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Post by bananamogul »

simjnd wrote: post #43
nickandbro wrote: post #2

Waiting for Steam Frame.

Sadly the passthrough is black and white only. That's the one thing I love about the Vision Pro is it never feels claustrophobic thanks to very good passthrough quality.

Wow, Steam Frame has only B&W passthrough...[1]

The Quest 3S has color passthrough and it's hardly an Apple-level device, and it's $349 in comparison.

I guess as a gamer, I don't care that much. I put on my headset to game, and if I need to step away for a moment, I'm more likely to take it off than to wander around my house with a headset on. Still, I thought color passthrough was now table stakes for a headset.

[1] https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/vr-hardware/the-steam-frame...

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using a Vision Pro?

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Post by DonHopkins »

wat10000 wrote: post #34
jzellis wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, absolutely no one uses an iPhone to go to Pornhub and spank themselves into oblivion because Steve and Tim said it's wrong

And nobody does that on Vision Pro despite it including the same browsing capabilities, apparently.

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using a Vision Pro?

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Post by cineticdaffodil »

curiouscavalier wrote: post #22

having developed multiple apps on it and tried every which way to use it (as an XR enthusiast in general), I have never been so happy to put a headset up on the shelf and never pull it out again. using as a spatial monitor was cool. for about 10min until my neck got tired of the added weight. but I’ll give credit that those 10min were pretty cool.

In industrial robotics, there is this emergency practice when the payload and tooling on the robot gets to heavy, to connect the payload to a counterweight and pully system, to "neutralize it in weight". Has anyone here tried that ? It should take three thin ropes with weight to make a object neutrally buyont. Yes, its tied to one room, yes its not pretty and futuristic, but its practical? If you want freedom of movement, connect via magnet- and dedock on leaving the room?

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using a Vision Pro?

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Post by CraigJPerry »

I bought the refreshed M5 version with the new headstrap. I read so many complaints about weight and it was just never an issue for me personally. Maybe the new strap is that much better?

That said, the battery cable was super annoying, id accidentally catch it multiple times per day. The battery is good for less than 2 hours so i used it plugged into the wall.

For zoom calls, the persona thing is hilariously bad, unusable in a business context. Interesting for a few minutes as a tech demo though.

The virtual layout is good - a big citrix app screen (its the ipad app) for remote desktop, zoom, safari etc off to the sides and then things like calendar widget pinned to physical wall. But text clarity / quality is just slightly not good enough for software development. Almost, its close. If you dont mind large fonts its good enough.

Ultimately returned it but it was a close run thing, i almost kept it.

I do still hanker for something like this, tempted to try xreal or other glasses but seems like the PPD is even lower.

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