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Claude Fable 5

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Re: Claude Fable 5

#341
The subscription bit makes no sense has capacity appeared for these 2ish weeks out of thin air that'll vanish? why is it available now but wont be in 2ish weeks?

am i missing something?

why would I pay 200 out of pocket and then some for the best model, it seems very silly.

Re: Claude Fable 5

#342

From the model card ( https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/d00db56fa754a1b115b6dd7cb2e3c3... ): 1. Mythos and Fable share the same underlying model weights. Fable has active classifiers that block high-risk biology and cybersecurity tasks. When Fable 5 detects a restricted task, it automatically falls back to Claude Opus 4.8. 2. Evaluation awareness: In white-box testing, the model sometimes alters its behavior to satisfy a…

> it automatically falls back to Claude Opus 4.8

I wonder how much of the time people will just get Opus 4.8 at 2× the cost.

Re: Claude Fable 5

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To hide the severity of the price increase, the plan is to move everyone right one model. Haiku = essentially phased out Sonnet = the Haiku use cases Opus = the new Sonnet class Fable = the new Opus class If I am right, the other "5.0" models will be conspicuously absent, possibly even for a couple of months. (If Opus 5 follows soon and is even modestly better than 4.8 then I was wrong.)

Yeah I noticed that too. For 98% of tasks I get same results with DeepSeek, it is starting to just be a branding game. It is incredible how marketing can get someone to pay 100x for same thing you can get for 1x.

This is why Claude Code just doesn't make sense to me. I need an agent that can plan using Opus and execute using DeepSeek or something else.

Re: Claude Fable 5

#345
my pet conspiracy theory is this is the Opus 4.5 from a few months ago which was extremely good but dumbed down after a week because it was just too good, they didn't want to release it to public. They pulled it down and deployed another "Opus", after that it was just a downhill. Opus 4.8 is unusable for me in React Native, TS, Rails development work.

Opus 4.8 gets stuck in weird loops where Codex one shots the bugs.

Re: Claude Fable 5

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Not missing the forest for the trees, this effectively means in 3-5 months China will drop open source models that are every bit as capable and dangerous as current day Mythos except with no safeguards. And the only companies safe from this are the large corporations that shook hands with Anthropic? Because Fable doesn't seem to have actual safeguards, more like 'if you talk about this you will be talking to Opus.' I…

Oh please let’s stop with the Mythos “it’s dangerous” PR talk.

Its obvious Anthropic used it to hype things up and that’s about it.

Re: Claude Fable 5

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Impressions from testing Fable 5 prior to launch: • My most noticeable immediate jump was in how its frontend design was much more intentionally crafted, and delightful without feeling like 'AI vibe coded'; with better end-user usability too. • In some internal agentic harnesses, it achieved better results with about half the tokens, making it cost the ~same as Opus 4.8 price-wise! The real price increase is less tha…

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Re: Claude Fable 5

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Impressions from testing Fable 5 prior to launch: • My most noticeable immediate jump was in how its frontend design was much more intentionally crafted, and delightful without feeling like 'AI vibe coded'; with better end-user usability too. • In some internal agentic harnesses, it achieved better results with about half the tokens, making it cost the ~same as Opus 4.8 price-wise! The real price increase is less tha…

Can I ask how you gained preview access to Fable 5?

I didn't see Fable 5 in the `/model` list, until I ran it with: `$ claude --model fable-5`

Re: Claude Fable 5

#349
Can't wait for some real competition so they stop trying to restrict how and why we are using the models.

Imagine if Google would tell you "we can't let you search that as you may use it for harm".

Also 2x the usage of Claude? Your limits are already ridiculously low.

Re: Claude Fable 5

#350

For those of us on subscription plans: * From today through June 22, Fable 5 is included on Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans at no extra cost. * On June 23, we’ll remove Fable 5 from those plans. Using it after that will require usage credits. If capacity allows, we’ll extend the included window. * After this point—when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part…

But it's not and it's highly disingenuous to frame it like this. Quote directly from Claude code, moments ago:

> Fable 5 · Most capable for your hardest and longest-running tasks · Uses your limits ~2× faster than Opus

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