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Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by 5701652400 »

ex-aws-dude wrote: post #36
5701652400 wrote: post #34

maybe look into industries AI is best at automating? like constant layoffs in Software? 160,000 people lost jobs in just 2026? the claim "hey there is no AI job crisis", when previous SWE of 6-figures now takes job dishwashing in McDonalds + one more gig as Uber driver + food delivery gig is "job creation! now they have 3 jobs!". does not make any sense.

Why would you assume that’s from AI You talk to any SE and it’s obvious we’re not running out of work to do since these tools became available

1. C-level says so 2. on-the-ground people indeed much more productive

but of course, it is not just AI. Software is consolidating and automating even without AI, that's the whole point of software.

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by pydry »

5701652400 wrote: post #34

maybe look into industries AI is best at automating? like constant layoffs in Software? 160,000 people lost jobs in just 2026? the claim "hey there is no AI job crisis", when previous SWE of 6-figures now takes job dishwashing in McDonalds + one more gig as Uber driver + food delivery gig is "job creation! now they have 3 jobs!". does not make any sense.

oh, you mean the interest rates crisis...

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by paulpauper »

If America becomes wealthier due to AI, it will mean more follow-on jobs such as people using their newfound fortunes to remodel their homes, consume more , vacation, etc. Companies will expand and hire. All of this creates jobs even if AI may also destroy some jobs. The net result is more jobs. There is a huge market for upper-middle-class people in their 30-50s to look younger. This means more health clinic jobs and demand for pharma.

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by 5701652400 »

ex-aws-dude wrote: post #36
5701652400 wrote: post #34

maybe look into industries AI is best at automating? like constant layoffs in Software? 160,000 people lost jobs in just 2026? the claim "hey there is no AI job crisis", when previous SWE of 6-figures now takes job dishwashing in McDonalds + one more gig as Uber driver + food delivery gig is "job creation! now they have 3 jobs!". does not make any sense.

Why would you assume that’s from AI You talk to any SE and it’s obvious we’re not running out of work to do since these tools became available

don't know whom you talk to. I see people laid of left-and-righ, in FAANG, banks, startup, pretty much everywhere.

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by paulpauper »

jmyeet wrote: post #31

You can't draw any conclusions based on "job openings" without dealing with, or at least addressing, "ghost job listings". There are several issues here: 1. AI ATS systems have made posting jobs "cheap", such that too companies post jobs that don't exist (ie "ghost jobs") to keep up appearances they're hiring or just to keep people in the pipeline in case they hire. This is a huge waste of everybody's time and should…

You can look at the official unemployment rate, too. It's still low despite rapid advances in LLMs

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by juleiie »

Someone here said that they get paid 50k to fix the ai code.

Maybe all the job cuts from ai were filled by fixers of ai output

Or maybe, no one ever heard of jevons paradox. Or maybe everyone ignored it and preached job apocalypse as risky but a high reward marketing tactic

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by paulpauper »

7e wrote: post #2

A "job opening" is not a job. It's an aspirational advertisement. Further, the graph shown is pretty noisy and I'm not sure the upward move which counters the downward trent is statistically significant.

You can also look at the BLS unemployment rate. Its also low. The predicted mass joblessness due to AI shows no sign of happening

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by o_nate »

BaconPackets wrote: post #3

I'll need to look at the underlying data, but it seems that the job "classification/category" should be more important than the raw number. A boost in lower paid/service industry jobs does not mean that there wasn't a loss in a category where AI can be more easily dropped into existing businesses. Data : https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

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Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by sarchertech »

Analemma_ wrote: post #20
bwestergard wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The shift toward healthcare employment is a very long running trend driven by the greying of the Baby Boom generation. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES6562000101

Yeah I'm starting to think the BLS needs to do "Boomer aging adjustments" to jobs numbers, in a similar manner to how they do "seasonal farming adjustments". Until we get through the Boomer population bulge, healthcare is going to keep adding jobs for quite a while regardless of how the rest of the economy does, but that doesn't necessarily mean the overall labor market is healthy. If you leave out healthcare, 2025 h…

If there is an increased demand in healthcare jobs that will increase wages in healthcare which will pull people out of other jobs and into healthcare in a healthy labor market. I’m not saying whether or not the labor market is healthy, but this adjustment wouldn’t help you figure that out.

Also Gen X isn’t that much smaller than the boomers, and millennials are the largest generation ever. Plus all generations aster the baby boomers have fewer children per couple to take care of them, so demand for healthcare jobs isn’t going to drop anytime soon.

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