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FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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This is how it works in Australia, which means it's a pain for tourists as you need to provide a passport for ID and get it activated, as opposed to just grabbing one at an airport kiosk and being ready to go on your way to the taxi or train like most other places.

Don’t eSIMs solve this problem for tourists?

In what way? Activating it still needs KYC.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why were you surprised?

Not who you were responding to, but most of the western world requires IDs already. The US is an outlier on this issue.

I don't think that's true. At least not in the European countries I visit.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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This is how it works in Australia, which means it's a pain for tourists as you need to provide a passport for ID and get it activated, as opposed to just grabbing one at an airport kiosk and being ready to go on your way to the taxi or train like most other places.

Somewhat recently, tried to activate a SIM for a guest here in Canada, and while you could fill in anything you want for personal info, the only way to hook up (prepaid) billing was with a Canadian credit card number. Whoops. This was only for a month, so I put in mine and he reimbursed me in cash. Other carriers may still let you buy one-time payment cards for cash at retail; this one didn't.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Here's the link to submit a comment to the FCC: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/express Ran a quick search and found a whole bunch of news articles, but nobody includes info that makes it easy to route your comment. Feels like the beginning of Hitchhiker's Guide: > It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.

Open to the possibility that I’m just cynical but my faith is very low that these comment processes are anything more than a regulatory requirement for the illusion of due diligence which legitimizes the actual corporate lobbying and security state actually making the policy.

You’re wrong. Even if the regulator ignores them, they allow third parties to bring a suit under the APA.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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This is how it works in Australia, which means it's a pain for tourists as you need to provide a passport for ID and get it activated, as opposed to just grabbing one at an airport kiosk and being ready to go on your way to the taxi or train like most other places.

Somewhat recently, tried to activate a SIM for a guest here in Canada, and while you could fill in anything you want for personal info, the only way to hook up (prepaid) billing was with a Canadian credit card number. Whoops. This was only for a month, so I put in mine and he reimbursed me in cash. Other carriers may still let you buy one-time payment cards for cash at retail; this one didn't.

I think this is where Airalo shines. I've used it while travelling and I think eSIMs, as annoying as they are, are the way.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who says anything about crime? the goal is just so they can associate phone numbers with id cards in some fashion right? If they want to know what tourists are posting about their country that's good enough.

Like so many laws, nothing to do with stopping crime, but an obvious push to strip the populace of its rights.

You do not have the right to a phone number without providing ID. If you're an American, those unwritten rights that come from other firm rights written down in laws and constitutions can always be argued, they're always being whittled down.

Rights for everyone are achieved through blood and toil, and if you truly want a right to anonymity and the digital tools necessary to achieve it, you will need blood and toil. Until then, we'll have to squeeze through fast developments that governments have yet to address.

Re: FCC wants to kill burner phones by forcing telecoms to get all customers' IDs

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This is how it works in Australia, which means it's a pain for tourists as you need to provide a passport for ID and get it activated, as opposed to just grabbing one at an airport kiosk and being ready to go on your way to the taxi or train like most other places.

> like most other places Much of EU requires ID for some time now. France is a bit strange, requires registration after 23 days or something. Germany, Italy, Spain it's basically impossible. The US is rather unique in that it does not require registration.

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