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Claude Fable 5

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Re: Claude Fable 5

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Post by ibejoeb »

rightlane wrote: post #275

My experiences so far have not been positive. The cyber security nerf is ridiculous. I am working on an AI based decompiler, every single interaction with Fable on my project has been flagged for cyber security. Do they expect us to use this as a toy? Releasing a new more powerful model but not allowing normal use cases because the word "secure" showed up is a Dilbert comic, not a viable product.

Ah, you're probably one to ask. They say "queries on some topics will instead receive a response from our next-most-capable model, Claude Opus 4.8." Are they transparent about when that happens, and is it priced at the rate of the underlying model?

Re: Claude Fable 5

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Post by bitwize »

dominotw wrote: post #82

system card = marketing material with heavily gamed benchmarks.

Cope harder. A year and a half ago, people were mocking Devin for claiming that AI could develop software at all. Yet here we are, when AI is developing most commercial software.

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Post by mawadev »

frevib wrote: post #83

At this point Anthropic is a pure marketing and PR company. Super catchy names like Opus, Mythos and Fable trying to get you to think that these software products are actually super-human life changing experiences. Boris Cherny coming to HN “Hi! it’s Boris from the Claude Code team” to get real tech people’s goodwill. From Opus 4.6 there are no noticeable improvements for me in code generation. It works very well, ti…

When the Ai overlord is descending into pleb space to say Hi, you know stuff is real

Re: Claude Fable 5

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Post by chis »

frevib wrote: post #83

At this point Anthropic is a pure marketing and PR company. Super catchy names like Opus, Mythos and Fable trying to get you to think that these software products are actually super-human life changing experiences. Boris Cherny coming to HN “Hi! it’s Boris from the Claude Code team” to get real tech people’s goodwill. From Opus 4.6 there are no noticeable improvements for me in code generation. It works very well, ti…

Hackernews not blindly hate on AI challenge: impossible

Re: Claude Fable 5

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Post by system2 »

I have been using FABLE 5 with Claude Code since the morning. The speed is very close to what Opus 4.5 was, and the quota use is nearly identical to what it was before the "doubling". Whatever I was experiencing 4-5 months ago is back. Maybe the model is better, but we will see. I cannot tell the difference yet.

Re: Claude Fable 5

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Post by systemvoltage »

eggbrain wrote: post #24

For those of us on subscription plans: * From today through June 22, Fable 5 is included on Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans at no extra cost. * On June 23, we’ll remove Fable 5 from those plans. Using it after that will require usage credits. If capacity allows, we’ll extend the included window. * After this point—when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part…

It's interesting that we are seeing a time when subscriptions are not preferred and usage-based billing is.

Pay-as-you go isn't a common thing in SaaS. For example, except for AWS SES, all email providers are bulk-subscription based.

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Post by matheusmoreira »

bkjlblh wrote: post #220

> In light of the ability of recent models to accelerate their own development, we’ve implemented new interventions that limit Claude’s effectiveness for requests targeting frontier LLM development (for example, on building pretraining pipelines, distributed training infrastructure, or ML accelerator design). Using Claude to develop competing models already violates our Terms of Service, but enforcing this restrictio…

Looks like Anthropic's definition of safety includes their own safety from competition.

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

raoulj wrote: post #258

On this thread and similar, I'm noticing that some strong opinions about $LLM_PROVIDER are coming from accounts without much post history. With so much on the line, and the way that HN can influence developer behavior, I wonder what ways we can responsibly consume opinions in a thread like this. Not to cast too much criticism. HN is extremely well-moderated (thanks team!). But think we-developers need to be very wary…

I think the community on this site these days, much like other comment sections on the web, just read the headline and make a low effort comment. Regression to the mean I guess.

Re: Claude Fable 5

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Post by jwpapi »

Honestly all the recent improvements, just seem to be slower and more expensive traded for more accuracy, but the issue is that it needs to be exponentially more accurate to counter the effect of having less of a human in a loop.

Every wrong direction/mistake is more expensive and takes more time to fix. When you have small loops you can catch those mistakes faster and cheaper.

To me we are very far off from economically given long-running tasks to agents.

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