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'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

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Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

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Post by mrgaro »

garciasn wrote: post #45
noisy_boy wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am more curious about how much token budget they have. Here I have to beg my boss for more as if he is paying from his pocket or I am using it for my hobby projects (I am not). I guess time to go back to copy/pasting to chat and doing things by hand like a caveman.

I don't understand this token budget shit. Why would anyone, in their right mind, not be using Claude Max? All of the engineers at our org are using 6.25x and several heavy non-developers are as well. The rest of the company with licenses are using 1.25x. I have hit my 6.25x limit exactly once in the last quarter. --- I realize that we will all eventually be forced to pay more for this and I have raised it as a real…

In order to get enterprise agreement you need to pay per token for Claude.

Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

#52

Post by disgruntledphd2 »

garciasn wrote: post #45
noisy_boy wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am more curious about how much token budget they have. Here I have to beg my boss for more as if he is paying from his pocket or I am using it for my hobby projects (I am not). I guess time to go back to copy/pasting to chat and doing things by hand like a caveman.

I don't understand this token budget shit. Why would anyone, in their right mind, not be using Claude Max? All of the engineers at our org are using 6.25x and several heavy non-developers are as well. The rest of the company with licenses are using 1.25x. I have hit my 6.25x limit exactly once in the last quarter. --- I realize that we will all eventually be forced to pay more for this and I have raised it as a real…

> I realize that we will all eventually be forced to pay more for this and I have raised it as a real possibility to the org for budgeting scenario planning; however, for now, why would you pay by token when it's subsidized?!

Anthropic (and maybe OpenAI?) have gated all the important enterprise features behind API plus pricing in the last quarter or two.

Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

#53

Post by dastbe »

garciasn wrote: post #45
noisy_boy wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am more curious about how much token budget they have. Here I have to beg my boss for more as if he is paying from his pocket or I am using it for my hobby projects (I am not). I guess time to go back to copy/pasting to chat and doing things by hand like a caveman.

I don't understand this token budget shit. Why would anyone, in their right mind, not be using Claude Max? All of the engineers at our org are using 6.25x and several heavy non-developers are as well. The rest of the company with licenses are using 1.25x. I have hit my 6.25x limit exactly once in the last quarter. --- I realize that we will all eventually be forced to pay more for this and I have raised it as a real…

because they’re not; anthropic is pushing enterprises to switch to API/token pricing

Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

#54

Post by [deleted] »

garciasn wrote: post #45
noisy_boy wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am more curious about how much token budget they have. Here I have to beg my boss for more as if he is paying from his pocket or I am using it for my hobby projects (I am not). I guess time to go back to copy/pasting to chat and doing things by hand like a caveman.

I don't understand this token budget shit. Why would anyone, in their right mind, not be using Claude Max? All of the engineers at our org are using 6.25x and several heavy non-developers are as well. The rest of the company with licenses are using 1.25x. I have hit my 6.25x limit exactly once in the last quarter. --- I realize that we will all eventually be forced to pay more for this and I have raised it as a real…

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Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

#55

Post by disgruntledphd2 »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #27

I'm surprised with Amazon and Meta in terms of AI. Less surprised with Google, I think Google has a very specific niche they picked. If you really think about it, you don't have to be the absolute best, you just have to keep refining your model for efficiency and cost, and I think that's Google's true goals and secret sauce. Google will snowball into place. They're also used more than most people realize. https://clo…

> Then there's Mark Z who is throwing away piles of money, but nothing to show for it other than letting people easily hack his social media sites?

I mean, FB/Meta have been using lots of GPUs and compute for well over a decade at this point, they definitely are one of the few companies who can make use of relatively absurd amounts of these to drive revenue (i.e. improve ranking for both personal/organic and paid posts).

Whether or not they'll get a return from this wave is much more up in the air.

Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

#56

Post by garciasn »

mrgaro wrote: post #51
garciasn wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand this token budget shit. Why would anyone, in their right mind, not be using Claude Max? All of the engineers at our org are using 6.25x and several heavy non-developers are as well. The rest of the company with licenses are using 1.25x. I have hit my 6.25x limit exactly once in the last quarter. --- I realize that we will all eventually be forced to pay more for this and I have raised it as a real…

In order to get enterprise agreement you need to pay per token for Claude.

Ah; I didn't realize there was a 150 person cap to Team and I suppose paying out the ear is worth it for compliance audit. Makes sense in that regard.

Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

#57

Post by mrguyorama »

garciasn wrote: post #45
noisy_boy wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am more curious about how much token budget they have. Here I have to beg my boss for more as if he is paying from his pocket or I am using it for my hobby projects (I am not). I guess time to go back to copy/pasting to chat and doing things by hand like a caveman.

I don't understand this token budget shit. Why would anyone, in their right mind, not be using Claude Max? All of the engineers at our org are using 6.25x and several heavy non-developers are as well. The rest of the company with licenses are using 1.25x. I have hit my 6.25x limit exactly once in the last quarter. --- I realize that we will all eventually be forced to pay more for this and I have raised it as a real…

For the code I generate and the limited way I am using it, Claude Sonnet is reliable and good.

I hope that I can someday run something very much like it locally.

The moment that happens, the AI industry is essentially useless to me. I don't need some ultra expensive "Totally better" model that does the exact same thing.

Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

#58

Post by computomatic »

cmiles8 wrote: post #32

Amazon’s attempts at AI tooling are just far too behind to be taken seriously. Kiro, Quick whatever, the Alexa updates. All just a hot mess. Amazon’s own employees appear to have abandoned Kiro en mass when allowed to just use Claude. Amazon should just focus on being a utility compute provider. Anything they try to do on top of that is just consistently second rate.

It’s all relative. Kiro is second to Claude Code, but Amazon isn’t really competing with Anthropic. They need something better than Microsoft/Github Copilot and that is a low, low bar.

Re: 'Sloppenheimer:' Amazon employees mock the company's AI on Slack

#59

Post by tyingq »

gavinray wrote: post #3

I recently wound up in conversation with someone working at Amazon. Inevitably, the convo steered into AI/LLM's at some point. Here is what I learned: - AWS had an in-house LLM tool that was terrible they tried to use for a while - A lot of them still use Kiro - Claude Code is currently the de-facto standard - They're in the process of getting some custom Codex variant that doesn't phone-home and is audited approved…

Would be really curious what the internal market share for Kiro is. Not a really good look for it if it's just smattering use here and there.
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