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Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied request for exemption

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Re: Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied request for exemption

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Does this affect users that have a primary address in the EU or anyone with a phone that is _in_ the EU?

From past experience, it is when you are physically in the EU, but this implementation could obviously differ from how they've gated features in the past.

Re: Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied request for exemption

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Good. EU has the right to privacy. Apple also has the right to not conduct business in EU. If EU doesn’t like it, they can build their own sovereign software.

I believe that the issue was that the EU wanted Apple to open up their new AI agent interface (the ability to control every app on your phone so Siri can call you an Uber or whatever), and Apple thought that it was too risky of a capability to give to any random AI app right out of the gate.

Re: Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied request for exemption

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The EU is only interested in interoperability and centralization of data so they can put their citizens under surveillance. I hope Apple continues to exit this market on the edges.

I don't think the GDPR came from an effort to surveil, but the world has changed in the last ten years and I do agree with this assessment today.

Re: Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied request for exemption

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Good. EU has the right to privacy. Apple also has the right to not conduct business in EU. If EU doesn’t like it, they can build their own sovereign software.

If they can comply with China’s unreasonable demands, they can comply with the completely reasonable EU demands.

They already claim to care about your freedom and privacy. Now they can prove it.

Re: Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied request for exemption

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Apple said "hey, can we not comply with the law", the EU said no, so it didn't launch. Seems pretty straightforward to me. I can see why Apple might want to request an 18 month exemption, there's clearly extra work required to comply with EU regulations. But on the other hand it also feels like a straightforward play for consumer sympathy: let them get used to using it every day for 18 months, then pressure the EU to…

I think there's a reasonable question of whether the Siri stuff is even a feature that customers want. Additionally, money can not solve all problems, 9 people can't make a baby in a month, and if these sorts of regulations are serious at all like they are for medical regulation then you really do need to do the work of assessing risks, etc., and there's a chain of waterfall development to all that.

Re: Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied request for exemption

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post #12
post #3

Good. EU has the right to privacy. Apple also has the right to not conduct business in EU. If EU doesn’t like it, they can build their own sovereign software.

I believe that the issue was that the EU wanted Apple to open up their new AI agent interface (the ability to control every app on your phone so Siri can call you an Uber or whatever), and Apple thought that it was too risky of a capability to give to any random AI app right out of the gate.

> Apple thought that it was too risky of a capability to give to any random AI app right out of the gate

Oh come on. Apple doesn't want to give up control. That's what this is about. The privacy thing is just to make them look good

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