This Microsoft notion of “devices that don’t stand alone but surround you” sounds an awful lot like Google’s “ambient computing” of yonder.
"The network is the computer." - Sun Microsystems, 1984
The iPhone's Last Stand?
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The term is nearly old enough to have a driving license - google glass came out 14 years ago
Ahh maybe that’s it. Old slang that’s not used often enough these days.
Good luck reading an article about Meta Raybans without running into the term. That said, the whole smartglasses thing seems to be pretty dead as a concept - at least in part because public opinion is not on the side of folks wandering around with stealthy cameras on their faces
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you ever reading the code? What do you do when the LLM can't fix a bug? Do you not wish you had a more intimate first-hand knowledge of the code when fixing things yourself? Please don't tell me that never happens-- I've had one just in the last week and I use both OpenAI and Anthropic foundation models.
In my current workflow, yes, I read all code. In fact, I usually let multiple LLMs implement the same feature, and then I compare them. I even run my own arena in which I calculate Elo scores for LLMs from my perspective of which one implemented features better. Having the ability to control code agents via voice would not take away my ability to do that. But I think in the future, that will become less and less nece…
Fair enough. Thank you for sating my curiosity. I'm not quite as optimistic as you, but I'm excited at the potential to be proven wrong. :)
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#134Having watched Microsoft try and fail to launch countless new ideas into the market over the past couple decades, I have 0 faith in their ability to deliver something people actually use. Others, often Apple, seem to succeed where Microsoft had previously tried and repeatedly failed.
At least with Microsoft it’s more likely to not be a walled garden.
At least a walled garden exists. Microsoft pulls the products that don't work in the market. So either you're left with nothing, or endless migrations as they keep trying different things without traction.
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#135I've valued Ben Thompson's opinions less over time. He was super into goggle-like devices and remote meetings. I own Apple Vision Pro. It's a technical achievement, but not compelling beyond immersive video (too bad). He harps on Dems trying to clean up monopolies (Lina Khan during Biden, who had good principles but didn't get much done; probably blame her boss) and is quiet through republican bullshit (T2). He seems…
“Lina Khan had good principles”??
Yeah might as well cancel your subscription if you’re not gonna read it
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#136I stopped reading when he mentioned "..beyond the fact that billions.." I looked it up and iphone users are much less than two billions. I can't expect much axcuracy from this opinion.
Re: The iPhone's Last Stand?
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you ever reading the code? What do you do when the LLM can't fix a bug? Do you not wish you had a more intimate first-hand knowledge of the code when fixing things yourself? Please don't tell me that never happens-- I've had one just in the last week and I use both OpenAI and Anthropic foundation models.
In my current workflow, yes, I read all code. In fact, I usually let multiple LLMs implement the same feature, and then I compare them. I even run my own arena in which I calculate Elo scores for LLMs from my perspective of which one implemented features better. Having the ability to control code agents via voice would not take away my ability to do that. But I think in the future, that will become less and less nece…
Something something wasting machine cycles with a compiler.
Something something taking the crafts and the man out of craftsmanship to just get it out the door as quickly as possible.
All jest aside I mostly agree with you but I'd tack on another 20 years for a total of 30.
Though in this technological jump I don't think people are as excited (understandably) as when the teletype came on scene. I too like the potential but dislike the whole discourse around it, the ethics involved and the way it's deployed. Such is life I suppose.
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#138> [C]onsumers, on the other hand, are mostly looking to waste time, which is why attention- harvesting advertising is the only software business model that works at scale for consumer services.
I came here to talk about this, like some other commenters did, too :) I think that this _is_ a predominant view amongst most of Silicon Valley but I think it's kind of a local maxima view... Easy to agree with, easy to see that it's a functional idea, but... people... (i.e. consumers) do lots more than just waste time on their phones even though I bet that's a huge amount of what people are doing across the US right now.
I guess the thing that _is_ true about this nugget is the "at scale" part. It's hard to find things _at scale_ that people would pay for on a phone. So the phone sort of falls back into this easy to monetize thing via advertising. But I think people (qua consumers) probably can clearly be a sustainable market for way more than attention harvesting (or dopamine fracking!) but it requires a lot more effort to think of things that you can build a market out of there. So people sort of lazy-back into attention harvesting via ads.
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> What a callous view of people. Who's your benchmark? TikTok addicted kids? brother, we are all walking around with a supercomputer in our pocket thats capable of accessing the sum total of human knowledge and yet we're still stuck with people who think the earth is flat.
> brother, Why am seeing "brother" a lot recently?
right???
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ahh maybe that’s it. Old slang that’s not used often enough these days.
Good luck reading an article about Meta Raybans without running into the term. That said, the whole smartglasses thing seems to be pretty dead as a concept - at least in part because public opinion is not on the side of folks wandering around with stealthy cameras on their faces
I have actually looked into meta glasses a number of times. Never saw the term. Learn something new everyday thanks for sharing this old term with the group!