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EU-banned pesticides found in rice, tea and spices

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Re: EU-banned pesticides found in rice, tea and spices

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Post by account42 »

daedrdev wrote: post #32
bijowo1676 wrote: post #9

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EU generally leads the developed world in regulation, that has become a meme and a joke. but for Food related stuff, EU standards and regulation are truly superior for consumers, relative to US and other countries

The United States has far stricter labeling standards than the EU. That's why US products appear to have more ingredients, they are required to say what their ingredients are mad from, even on identical products. Many things that are well known memes are completely false. Not everything in the EU is better regulated. Everyone always complains about chlorinated chicken, not realizing that <5% of US chicken is washed t…

On the other hand, US tap water is absolutely drenched in chlorine. Awful stuff.

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Post by dbdr »

blitzar wrote: post #121
HerbManic wrote: post #120

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I too believed Patrick Moore representing Monstanto when he said 'Round up' was safe to drink.

> When the interviewer immediately offered him a glass of the herbicide to drink, Moore refused, stating: "No, I'm not an idiot," and abruptly ended the interview. Guess he just want thirsty at that moment.

Only an idiot would drink when they are not thirsty. Nothing to do with his job being to lie and manipulate opinion.

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franciscop wrote: post #102
nozzlegear wrote: post #16

The report itself[†] blames the pesticide residue on a "boomerang effect" from EU countries: EU countries export these banned pesticides to third countries, those countries use the banned pesticides on the food they grow, and then the EU countries import that food. In effect, EU companies are still profiting off of the sale and use of banned pesticides on food that Europeans will eat. [†] https://www.foodwatch.org/fi…

I know someone close who grows oranges in Spain. He has to go through hell, had to rework multiple times the fields so that they pass the strict Spanish regulation for organic produce. They get evaluated not only on the final product being pesticide free, but also on the full process being compliant, with heavy fines for non compliance. This is fine-ish, except that the imported oranges get checked only seldomly (if…

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Post by cucumber3732842 »

franciscop wrote: post #102
nozzlegear wrote: post #16

The report itself[†] blames the pesticide residue on a "boomerang effect" from EU countries: EU countries export these banned pesticides to third countries, those countries use the banned pesticides on the food they grow, and then the EU countries import that food. In effect, EU companies are still profiting off of the sale and use of banned pesticides on food that Europeans will eat. [†] https://www.foodwatch.org/fi…

I know someone close who grows oranges in Spain. He has to go through hell, had to rework multiple times the fields so that they pass the strict Spanish regulation for organic produce. They get evaluated not only on the final product being pesticide free, but also on the full process being compliant, with heavy fines for non compliance. This is fine-ish, except that the imported oranges get checked only seldomly (if…

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Post by whateverboat »

stogot wrote: post #2

Companies that poison the people like this should be sanctioned, along with their owners. Greed and profiteering

There's always a tradeoff between eating crops that will make you sick and kill you when you are 60 vs not eating enough nutritious food that will kill you when you are 40.

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Post by abc123abc123 »

darth_avocado wrote: post #30
ofrzeta wrote: post #6

For spices and tea it really makes sense to buy organic (not that there are no fraudsters but still).

Organic is just green washing, it doesn’t mean no chemicals. Plenty of organic products contain toxic chemicals and heavy metals. Organic oats have been found to contain glyphosate. Organic spices have been found to contain heavy metals.

True. My tea merchant sells two varieties of the same tea. The organic and the regular. I asked what the difference was, and they said the tea comes from the same village, and that the organic one was lower quality, so they invested in EU stamps to get a higher price, while the higher quality one did not feel the need. No difference essentially, except that the organic was priced higher.

So I always make a point to buy the inorganic one (pun intended!).

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Post by jenadine »

lukan wrote: post #128
jenadine wrote: post #108

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> strict Spanish regulation for organic produce. Organic labels are a different thing than official regulation though. IMHO organic labels optimize for the wrong things.

"IMHO organic labels optimize for the wrong things." What do you mean? I only know of "Demeter", that also has some very esoteric requirements (homeopathy, cosmic energy flow rituals) - but otherwise organic label optimize for: - no or little pesticides and herbicides - more space and better condition for the animals My only other grievance is that they also all ban GMO

They optimise for natural. So you can still have pesticides and herbicides. If you find your poison in some plant, it is fine. If you synthetize the same molecule in a factory, then it's not allowed.

As for the animal welfare, true, but there are also labels specifically for that that.

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Post by pitkali »

Theodores wrote: post #177
card_zero wrote: post #57

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Oh no, I drank 1 ml of saturated fat. Is it even still all bad for you? I thought I heard some detail about that recently ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat > A 2024 meta-analysis found that odd-chain and longer-chain saturated fatty acids were negatively associated with the risk of cardiovascular disease, including stroke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odd-chain_fatty_acid >OCFAs are found particularly…

Many a health or ethics rabbit hole can be bypassed with simple abstention. However, this is not good for 'content creators'. They need the controversy and rage bait for engagement. With saturated fat the health authorities that have science but industry lobbying to content with, have told us to avoid the stuff because it clogs the arteries and invariably comes with cholesterol because animals. Arguably Ebola and AID…

The peasants did not live for long, though, did they? Hard to say if and how the diet contributed, but just because people rarely ate meat then, for example, doesn't necessarily mean it's better for your health. Even if we could agree that people these days eat too much.

People talk about how we spent generations adapting to certain aspects of diet, and so following the habits of old is surely safer, but seem to forget that evolution only really "cares" about producing offspring, not your longevity, or quality of life in old age.

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Post by kakacik »

jenadine wrote: post #109
i5heu wrote: post #37

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At least in Germany we have “Bio” which is a organic label that is controlled at least somewhat.

But it is controlled for the wrong criterias. "Natural" doesn't mean healthy or good for the environment. It is only greenwashing and "appeal to nature" fallacy

Strong claims require strong evidence, not just throwing random fashionable words others are using. Your claims are very strong.
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