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Re: Siri AI

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Post by riffraff »

grey-area wrote: post #519
diroussel wrote: post #507

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found that Deep Research mode in Gemini was able to give me a well planned 4 day trip to a major city. I told it my preferences and of the group members, where we arrived and departed, at what times. I gave it my itinerary and then asked it to plan two new itineraries and also suggest a location to book a hotel that was convenient for the early flight on the last day. I went away for 20 mins and gave me a 20 page d…

Or maybe there are just a few complete trips to major city in the training data that it could copy from? I imagine major destinations are much easier.

I used LLMs last year to plan an multiple week itinerary through Japan with the family, I wasn't super happy with the result so I tweaked it but they provided a useful template and some surprising ideas.

As you guessed, there's a ton of info in the training data on this topic, but there's some value in being able to see it on one place with different options.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

haritha-j wrote: post #525
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I want a physical AI device. I want an AI assistant that I can use truly hands free. I keep my phone in my jacket when I'm riding my motorcycle. I want to be able to start, stop, adjust, and check details in route guidance. I want to be able to ask what the weather is like ahead on my route. I want to be able to ask it to start looking for a sensible place for me to stop for fuel and/or food without making me…

Earbuds exist.

I use Shure se215 IEMs inside my helmet together with a Cardo Packtalk (which includes a microphone mounted inside my helmet).

The audio setup is not the problem.

The problem is when I say "Hey Siri, cancel route guidance," it will say something like "…You must unlock your iPhone to do that."

The entire point is that I can't take my gloves off, get out my phone, and unlock it, at speed, on a motorcycle.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by jorisw »

saintfire wrote: post #433
WorldPeas wrote: post #254

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apple's highly opinionated developer strategy has a strength here insofar as they could use it to deconstruct existing apps into generative ui programs that the user may compose to their needs (e.g. putting a webview for cooking instructions above a timer) though of course app publishers would decry it, Apple's never really seemed keen on listening to them.

Nor have they been keen on letting users OR devs customize the ui.

> users customize the UI

The home and widgets screen can be customized to the point you don't recognize it as iOS

> devs customize the UI

Have you used Spotify? It completely ignores Apple UI and does its own thing cross platform. If you mean let devs customize the OS' UI, why would they? UI consistency is one of Apple's core strengths (or so it was before the 26 releases).

Re: Siri AI

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Post by jorisw »

haritha-j wrote: post #523

The only way Siri will meaningfully save my time would be if it could doomscroll for me. All of the things Siri claims to automate here would save me maybe a couple of minutes total over a week, wouldn't make the tiniest dent in my screen time.

> if it could doomscroll for me

I don't understand. Are you so little in control of your own self that you now need an embedded AI to do something for you that was already a complete waste of time and energy? Just delete the apps.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by mayur24 »

dyauspitr wrote: post #492
Geee wrote: post #477

No, I don't want Apple to read all my emails, text messages and photos. I'm probably not going to buy Apple devices any more if it really works like this, by default sending all your data into their cloud. If I want to use AI, I want to be able to select the exact messages / photos which I want to send to it. Otherwise I expect the device to keep the data protected. I don't need any of these features either; I can re…

Apple is not reading anything.

Source: trust me bro

Re: Siri AI

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Post by avazhi »

nozzlegear wrote: post #432
avazhi wrote: post #231

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I hear Apple and I associate with it with laughable AI integration, an unserious UI, and buggy software. Apple’s entire software stack has a branding problem.

This sounds like a take that you'd probably only find on HN though. It seems dubious that regular Apple users see any issues with the software stack or with Siri, certainly not to the point that it'd be a branding problem for Apple.

Next time you're speaking to a close non-techie friend or family member feel free to ask them how often/whether they ever use Siri, and then ask them why not, and you'll realise that no, this isn't some HN-specific peculiarity.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by steve1977 »

grey-area wrote: post #519
diroussel wrote: post #507

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found that Deep Research mode in Gemini was able to give me a well planned 4 day trip to a major city. I told it my preferences and of the group members, where we arrived and departed, at what times. I gave it my itinerary and then asked it to plan two new itineraries and also suggest a location to book a hotel that was convenient for the early flight on the last day. I went away for 20 mins and gave me a 20 page d…

Or maybe there are just a few complete trips to major city in the training data that it could copy from? I imagine major destinations are much easier.

I think that's a large part behind the "success" of LLMs... people vastly overestimate their uniqueness.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by niek_pas »

Geee wrote: post #477

No, I don't want Apple to read all my emails, text messages and photos. I'm probably not going to buy Apple devices any more if it really works like this, by default sending all your data into their cloud. If I want to use AI, I want to be able to select the exact messages / photos which I want to send to it. Otherwise I expect the device to keep the data protected. I don't need any of these features either; I can re…

For now at least, you can turn Apple intelligence off entirely in settings.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by londons_explore »

fruit2020 wrote: post #464
zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

Booking and renting is certainly possible, they just need your auth credentials

I gave some LLM's my password manager and some credit cards to try to do this sort of thing lately.

They failed most of the time. Simple things like finding the right password for Gmail sometimes was out of reach. Anti bot techniques sometimes stopped it.

Impressively, sometimes they'd successfully write hugely complex bash or python scripts to do tasks on web pages they hadn't managed to do with the browser automation.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by renatovico »

the same :'( what i really expected from Siri,

- Siri please suggest an organization for this folder - Siri over my last work in this app can summarize what i am struggle ?

Pro active:

- Hey, the last hour you exchange 30 mails from the same subject, i look with your team ai and all have same struggle, based your key points in communication is X,Y,Z, this an mail for final align

- Your and your partner don't have quality time in last day, i see has the seat available in your favorites restaurant for next hour do you want made an appointment ?

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