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Re: Hermes Agent – Open-source AI agent with persistent memory

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Post by eranation »

hankbond wrote: post #19
eranation wrote: post #2

Surprised it wasn't on the homepage yet, my X / LinkedIn feed is non stop about it. I would love to hear from someone who actually played with all the FOMO harnesses / frameworks and actually did a first impression comparison on what to try out (I'm sure it's not even apples to apples) or discovered that it's all marginally better at best from just rolling your own via Claude Code / Codex / Cursor... - paperclip - he…

I don't really see how Pi is a FOMO framework. It's basically the minimal surface area framework for you to build other things on. I'm building some agent powered applications and I would have no ability to do that reliably on Claude Code/codex/cursor because they lack the integration depth I need, that Pi provides.

Yeah, I used that term loosely, for me FOMO is everything I don't know. It's not a FOMO framework to you (but your comment definitely adds to my FOMO, in a totally positive way I mean...)

Re: Hermes Agent – Open-source AI agent with persistent memory

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Post by getcrunk »

babelfish wrote: post #17
sergiotapia wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh hell no. "Let me steal your secret keys" basically. This submission should be removed.

What? This is just a documentation site. Everything points to the official repo/resources.

Today

Re: Hermes Agent – Open-source AI agent with persistent memory

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Post by thunderbong »

hank1931 wrote: post #9
eranation wrote: post #2

Surprised it wasn't on the homepage yet, my X / LinkedIn feed is non stop about it. I would love to hear from someone who actually played with all the FOMO harnesses / frameworks and actually did a first impression comparison on what to try out (I'm sure it's not even apples to apples) or discovered that it's all marginally better at best from just rolling your own via Claude Code / Codex / Cursor... - paperclip - he…

Check out Eve ( https://eve.new ). I saw it here on Hacker News after I decided OpenClaw was too raw for me. Eve is amazing. My theory as to why it's so good is that the founders have a strong background in design -- they met getting their masters in design at UC Berkeley. Their secret sauce is the harness they've constructed IMHO. Here is what Zach Dive said in the original HN announcement-- Eve is an AI agent harne…

Link to HN submission

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47721255

Re: Hermes Agent – Open-source AI agent with persistent memory

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Post by [deleted] »

hank1931 wrote: post #9
eranation wrote: post #2

Surprised it wasn't on the homepage yet, my X / LinkedIn feed is non stop about it. I would love to hear from someone who actually played with all the FOMO harnesses / frameworks and actually did a first impression comparison on what to try out (I'm sure it's not even apples to apples) or discovered that it's all marginally better at best from just rolling your own via Claude Code / Codex / Cursor... - paperclip - he…

Check out Eve ( https://eve.new ). I saw it here on Hacker News after I decided OpenClaw was too raw for me. Eve is amazing. My theory as to why it's so good is that the founders have a strong background in design -- they met getting their masters in design at UC Berkeley. Their secret sauce is the harness they've constructed IMHO. Here is what Zach Dive said in the original HN announcement-- Eve is an AI agent harne…

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Re: Hermes Agent – Open-source AI agent with persistent memory

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Post by apexalpha »

I use Hermes at home. Swapped out Openclaw for this. It seems to work better with smaller contexts, chuncking it up in smaller pieces.

I don't code with it, I use Claude for that. But what I do do: it's a sysadmin for my homelab. It has a read-only mcp server to check the k8s status and has it's own ssh access to fix stuff after I approve it per session.

It's magical. Each morning I get a small update whether the backup ran, if pods are stuck or behaving weirdly etc... Since the entire homelab is GitOps I can always reverse a change made by the agent.

I am now adding Nextcloud and moving calendar offline, from Google to my own hw. I barely touch it anymore, manually. In stead I sent a quick voice note on Telegram and 30 sec later I get a screenshot 'proving' it worked.

Re: Hermes Agent – Open-source AI agent with persistent memory

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Post by apexalpha »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #15

Why do these AI agents keep using Telegram as their channel for user communication? Telegram is literally a spying platform run by the FSB?

Adding a bot on Telegram is a single command. It's super easy and natively supported.

Other channels are available, there's like 15+ officially supported now.

Re: Hermes Agent – Open-source AI agent with persistent memory

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Post by sshine »

eranation wrote: post #2

Surprised it wasn't on the homepage yet, my X / LinkedIn feed is non stop about it. I would love to hear from someone who actually played with all the FOMO harnesses / frameworks and actually did a first impression comparison on what to try out (I'm sure it's not even apples to apples) or discovered that it's all marginally better at best from just rolling your own via Claude Code / Codex / Cursor... - paperclip - he…

> I would love to hear from someone who actually played with all the FOMO harnesses

I tried claude, opencode, pi, hermes, openclaw.

Specifically, I tried Claude with Sonnet/Opus and GLM-5.1, and OpenCode with Sonnet/Opus (briefly, since it's a violation of services) and much more with GLM-5.1.

I'll say: Claude is the best overall. OpenCode has the best UI. Pi has something going for it (I embed it in my agents on my Multica kanban), being that it's programmable and extensible by design, it's also a CLI.

Hermes: Sluggish, very slow to start, a lot is going on in the background, didn't like it. Seems over-engineered, didn't use it long enough to evaluate its memory functions. I'd rather have full session logs rather than these MEMORY.md summaries of what a session did.

OpenClaw: Amazing in its novelty, hellish in its implementation. I tried to make an OpenClaw on a VPS capable of editing its own Nix config, and it sucked. Tried a few variations like NanoClaw. Much less fluid; not the same, which is probably a good thing, but what OpenClaw tries to deliver is this autonomous agent with full ability to edit itself as crazy as that is. If it were just less sluggish and capable of more self-modification off the bat. I mostly blame JavaScript/NPM here.

I gave my brother an OpenClaw and he tried to make it do things on his behalf. His final feedback before abandoning it: It feels like I need to know programming. I ask it for the daily weather report.

Re: Hermes Agent – Open-source AI agent with persistent memory

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Post by embedding-shape »

hank1931 wrote: post #28
embedding-shape wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Check out Eve ( https://eve.new ). > Continue with Google/Email Seems very different from the other listed options in parent's comment if you need an online account with Eve to even use it.

I see your point. The others are self-hosted, and you bring your own key. Personally, I like the convenience Eve's online account provides. It's dead simple to be up and off to the races, getting useful work done with little effort. After struggling with OpenClaw, it has been a very pleasant experience. Several people in our company are using it now.

> I see your point. The others are self-hosted, and you bring your own key.

More importantly, they don't require an account with a company you don't know how long it'll exist.

It's less about "self-hosted vs not" and more about "If I start relying on this tool and the company eventually gets bought/sold/disappears/burns up, what can I do?"

On top of that, they're using wildly wrong TLD, it's not a generic fun TLD to do whatever with, it's specifically for doing a "New Action" in an existing platform. Gives me the impression they don't really know what they're doing.

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Post by mmusc »

eranation wrote: post #2

Surprised it wasn't on the homepage yet, my X / LinkedIn feed is non stop about it. I would love to hear from someone who actually played with all the FOMO harnesses / frameworks and actually did a first impression comparison on what to try out (I'm sure it's not even apples to apples) or discovered that it's all marginally better at best from just rolling your own via Claude Code / Codex / Cursor... - paperclip - he…

They're all very good an spending all your tokens. They are useful but way too expensive to run
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