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Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by janalsncm »

randyrand wrote: post #58
jorgen123 wrote: post #41

For those not reading the linked article, it was not about tech (although valid discussions here). I had not expected this (this is about rural Alaska): > “In some rural districts, visa teachers make up 50% to nearly 80% of the teaching staff. School districts already invest $6,000 to $12,000 per teacher to recruit and sponsor educators through the H-1B visa process. Adding a $100,000 federal visa fee has made it fin…

There are an excess of teachers in the USA already. It’s a big reason they aren’t paid that well. No good reason to import them except to pay them even less .

Is there an excess of teachers in Alaska?

I can understand why rural schools would need H1Bs. They would probably need to pay a premium to attract teachers from out of state, not to mention Alaska. And rural schools are the least able to actually do that.

Maybe if the current admin really wants to keep the $100k fee, they can extend an olive branch by either waiving the fee or helping to fund American teachers to move to fill those jobs.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by horns4lyfe »

alephnerd wrote: post #2

This is great news for healthcare, academia, and engineering subdisciplines that don't have the margins to support a $100K per application fee. That said, Trump's announcement has done lasting damage to tech hiring in the US because it's set a price floor for opening a GCC (Global Capacity Center), which subsidizes in the CEE (Central and Eastern EU States), Israel, and India can outcompete most of the US excluding t…

So your argument is we have to give American jobs to foreigners here in America or they’ll take them overseas? Pardon me if I’m not convinced

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by naturalmovement »

ttul wrote: post #76

There is actually a sensible way to do recruit foreign workers to fill jobs that locals for some reason can't fill, and it's just a few miles up north... Canada's Temporary Foreign Worker Program (TFWP) is not limited by annual caps or lotteries. You just apply (as a company) by filling in a few simple forms and posting a job in the "Canada Job Bank" for a period of time to demonstrate that you genuinely searched for…

> by filling in a few simple forms and posting a job in the "Canada Job Bank" for a period of time to demonstrate that you genuinely searched for locals to fill the role and couldn't find anyone suitable

This is anathema to tech H1B abusers, which is why they post these jobs in obscure print publications no one reads, to deliberately conceal their existence, while meeting the legal requirement.

Unfortunately for them, they cannot treat domestic workers as chattel, which is the inconvenient truth in most cases.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by Analemma_ »

culopatin wrote: post #89
pseudo0 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rural Alaska... Just about the most inhospitable climate in the US, remote, and with a very high cost of living. Teachers can find work just about anywhere, they have little incentive to stay in Alaska. The solution for this is simple - pay them more. There are plenty of recently graduated teachers who would work in Alaska for a few years if it paid off their student loans or let them save up a down payment on a hous…

And who pays that extra? Who are you taxing in the middle of nowhere?

The Alaska Permanent Fund from their oil revenue is worth $90 billion and they send every resident an annual $1,000 check on top of heavily subsidized fuel. I think they can pay competitive teacher salaries.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by horns4lyfe »

jameson wrote: post #94

It's more alarming that US doesn't have enough skilled teachers in the nation that we have to hire from overseas. Education is an investment to the future generation and must not be overlooked.

That’s not even remotely the case. We just don’t have enough people willing to move to rural Alaska.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by bijowo1676 »

jojobas wrote: post #84
bijowo1676 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so you want to leave rural children without teachers?

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I find your reference to "third worlders" a bit offensive and racist. "First worlders" (whatever that means for you) also do apply for H1B visas, just FYI.

If you imply that teachers on visa are somehow inferior or worse then citizen teachers (non-existent btw since noone is volunteering for Alaska gig), you are either being terribly misinformed or just bigoted.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

BenFranklin100 wrote: post #22
amazingamazing wrote: post #3

Why can’t Americans do these jobs?

First, I think the H1B does need genuine reform to keep the big companies from gaming the lottery system. Having said that, I’m not sure banning H1Bs or immigrants in general is going to help American workers. Take tech for instance. Many tech leaders are immigrants. If they hasn’t taken in the Jensen Huang’s, Sergei Brin’s, Sundar Pichai, etc… the companies they lead and jobs they created would be elsewhere. It’s am…

The 45th president was supposed to deliver that reform. Then they went all out and... commissioned a study. Then they did nothing, once the puppet masters let it be know they didn't want to lose their servile work force chained to their visas with a green card dangled in front of them.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by halestock »

randyrand wrote: post #58
jorgen123 wrote: post #41

For those not reading the linked article, it was not about tech (although valid discussions here). I had not expected this (this is about rural Alaska): > “In some rural districts, visa teachers make up 50% to nearly 80% of the teaching staff. School districts already invest $6,000 to $12,000 per teacher to recruit and sponsor educators through the H-1B visa process. Adding a $100,000 federal visa fee has made it fin…

There are an excess of teachers in the USA already. It’s a big reason they aren’t paid that well. No good reason to import them except to pay them even less .

Er, there is an excess of teachers because they are paid so poorly. Teaching (like nursing) is absolutely a labor of love and so they are heavily undervalued and underpaid in this country.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Post by throwaway85825 »

horns4lyfe wrote: post #96
jameson wrote: post #94

It's more alarming that US doesn't have enough skilled teachers in the nation that we have to hire from overseas. Education is an investment to the future generation and must not be overlooked.

That’s not even remotely the case. We just don’t have enough people willing to move to rural Alaska.

...for the given price.
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