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Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Why can’t Americans do these jobs?

Being deported if you get fired is a basic job requirement. Keeps people in line. Americans can't compete with that.

Well they can compete with that.

Being fired means you lose healthcare and much needed benefits and of course a paycheck and all of that stuff, right? If you're going to take this wildly cynical approach you should at least do a more proper comparison....

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

#22

Why can’t Americans do these jobs?

First, I think the H1B does need genuine reform to keep the big companies from gaming the lottery system.

Having said that, I’m not sure banning H1Bs or immigrants in general is going to help American workers. Take tech for instance. Many tech leaders are immigrants. If they hasn’t taken in the Jensen Huang’s, Sergei Brin’s, Sundar Pichai, etc… the companies they lead and jobs they created would be elsewhere. It’s amazing how immigrants have shaped the US tech scene:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2026/06/03/immig...

Second, when you ban immigrants/H1B, companies get around the ban by outsourcing to foreign countries.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2017/06/10/if-yo...

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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I thought locking down H1Bs actually had bipartisan support? How can you argue there aren't enough jobs, and support H1Bs to fill jobs? I can see Alaska's case since encouraging people to move there very well may be a requirement, but surely there's somewhere between $0 and $100k that would convince someone to move there.

You’re putting words in people’s mouths. The fact that people oppose this solution doesn’t mean they disagree with the problem. We oppose it because it’s stupid; it’s the first solution that a dim-witted eight-year-old would’ve come up with.

The program needs to be reformed so it only applies to people with skills that genuinely cannot be found domestically.

Given the difference in expected engineering salaries for many citizens/permanent residents and foreigners/temporary residents, $100,000 is not an effective way of making that happen.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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post #8

Why can’t Americans do these jobs?

The H1B visa is explicitly designed for high skill (high paying) jobs which companies have (supposedly) demonstrated they cannot find enough citizen workers. There are much simpler mechanisms to making that would make the enforcement mechanism more effective without destroying the economy, like prioritizing them by salary instead of randomly. You could also just have a more proactive government which punishes busines…

>There are much simpler mechanisms to making that would make the enforcement mechanism more effective without destroying the economy, like prioritizing them by salary instead of randomly.

The Trump admin already did that too:

https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/dhs-changes-pro...

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

#25

There must be a better way to prevent the consulting firms from abusing this program

Rigorous examinations for English fluency and for competency in their alleged field of expertise would be a good start. I have several H1B coworkers in the US who barely speak intelligible English, and who barely understand normal conversation let alone anything technical. A blatant example of this that I experienced recently being that several of them could not understand that just because a method in C# is asynchro…

This is a hiring issue, not a legal one. The US has no official language, and no language tests, so requiring English in law would be dicey to put it mildly. What if I'm hiring someone specifically to work at a Spanish language news outlet?

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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There must be a better way to prevent the consulting firms from abusing this program

Rigorous examinations for English fluency and for competency in their alleged field of expertise would be a good start. I have several H1B coworkers in the US who barely speak intelligible English, and who barely understand normal conversation let alone anything technical. A blatant example of this that I experienced recently being that several of them could not understand that just because a method in C# is asynchro…

Many of the people I grew up with "barely speak intelligible English". Communication is important and the easiest way to fix that is to bring people from your linguistic group to be a coworker....

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being deported if you get fired is a basic job requirement. Keeps people in line. Americans can't compete with that.

Well they can compete with that. Being fired means you lose healthcare and much needed benefits and of course a paycheck and all of that stuff, right? If you're going to take this wildly cynical approach you should at least do a more proper comparison....

> Being fired means you lose healthcare and much needed benefits and of course a paycheck and all of that stuff, right?

I think there's some law that lets you stay on health insurance for a few months at least, and you can save up as a countermeasure to the loss of the paycheck. Bad as it is it's not comparable to getting deported after a couple of months.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rigorous examinations for English fluency and for competency in their alleged field of expertise would be a good start. I have several H1B coworkers in the US who barely speak intelligible English, and who barely understand normal conversation let alone anything technical. A blatant example of this that I experienced recently being that several of them could not understand that just because a method in C# is asynchro…

This is a hiring issue, not a legal one. The US has no official language, and no language tests, so requiring English in law would be dicey to put it mildly. What if I'm hiring someone specifically to work at a Spanish language news outlet?

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Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

#29

There must be a better way to prevent the consulting firms from abusing this program

Only allow American firms to use H1-B. Most of the H1-B abuse is from the Indian 'WITCH' companies. Why foreign firms are allowed to hire foreign workers in the US is beyond me. For training / administration, there should be another visa type which does not confer family benefits and cannot progress to greencard or whatever.

BUT... at the end of the day, the solution must be passed by congress. Have we all forgotten about Congress since they stopped doing anything?

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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There must be a better way to prevent the consulting firms from abusing this program

There is no abuse. That's why tech companies recruit for software positions in the back pages of a gay mag in Salt Lake City and require resumes sent by postal mail.
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