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Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by sleepybrett »

mlindner wrote: post #136
nozzlegear wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to have an Apple Vision Pro; it was a genuinely great piece of tech. IMO if Apple went somewhere like wearable glasses with it, it'd be a hit.

Part of the problem with Apple Vision Pro was the sales strategy. They labeled it "Pro" but if you went into an Apple store they only let you play some simple games and watch some movies with it. The main feature I was interested in, desktop extension, they wouldn't let you test. I even explicitly asked and they said no. They wanted a guided experience thing which just turned me off from buying it.

they had to be 'pro' because of that pricetag. I'm a VR guy and an Apple guy and even I wouldn't move for that price. They need to come up with a way to halve that price. Remove the front screen, it's cute but not required. Maybe a version that doesn't have all the onboard compute, one that needs to be slaved to a mac generally, if they can make it work with an ipad for compute (or iphone?) all the better.

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Post by krackers »

kmeisthax wrote: post #296
earthnail wrote: post #122

Ouch. “ Developers can start trying out the new version of Siri today, with a beta launching to the public later this year. Siri AI will not be available in the EU on iOS and iPadOS.” Will it be available to developers in the EU though?

AFAIK no - the country-specific limitations are done with geofencing in countryd and Apple doesn't have a "Pretend I'm in the US and let me use the anti-trust-violating AI" option. The EU laws they're trying to negotiate with and sidestep do not have a "developer mode exception". If you're wondering what I mean by "anti-trust violating", it has to do with Apple's "security" policies. Every feature Apple ships has to…

Why wouldn't they be lenient with the geofencing, presumably they _want_ people to use this unlike EU alternate app store, so there's no need to use the uber-strict geofenced and they could instead just gate it based on something like account creation location.

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Post by sethops1 »

edbaskerville wrote: post #371
simonebrunozzi wrote: post #365

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He went on to ruin Ferrari now :)

Whoa, didn't realize that was Jony Ive! Good job Jony! Gave both Ferrari and EVs bad press with a single product launch! A good lesson in not messing with a good thing. If they had just put an electric motor in a classic Ferrari body, it could have been a nice moment for the energy transition.

The Luce is so bad it makes Nissan's 2026 Leaf refresh look awesome!

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Post by novafunc »

slg wrote: post #196

I think the potentially most impactful singular feature mentioned in all this is being able to conversationally describe Shortcuts for AI to create. That feels like the type of thing that if done right can change how we all use our phones in a way that things like Siri becoming smarter and more conversational likely won't.

I used Gemini Pro to convert health data from a .csv and import it into Apple Health. Worked first try.

I just hope the AI Apple use is smart enough for the task. And that giving the AI information it needs is easy (such as a snippet of the health data so it knows what it's working with).

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by sethops1 »

robomartin wrote: post #439
WoodenChair wrote: post #25

Apple very rarely admits mistakes. The fact they're rolling back some of the extremeness in Liquid Glass and actively mentioned in the keynote that they very seriously took the user feedback shows just how bad it was, at least initially.

I would love to be able to have a conversation with the people who decided Liquid Glass was a good idea. The first question would be: Given all other truly useful things you could implement as well as bug fixes, why did you think that investing time and money on Liquid Glass would deliver useful value to users? I wonder how much time and money they wasted on something that nobody wanted, cared for, needed or solved a…

My theory is they made Liquid Glass for the Watch first, where (IMHO) it's actually pretty great, and assumed it would translate well to iOS and macOS, which in retrospect it did not.

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Post by alaedine »

torben-friis wrote: post #321
philistine wrote: post #42

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It was literally the first specific announcement they made after they finished their introductions. Not anything iPhone related; they announced that Liquid Glass on macOS would move towards the older design. Goes to show that a year of anybody with any sort of clout complaining about the thousand little cuts of Liquid Glass on macOS will get a company to respond. That and the guy who announced it last year fled to Fa…

It's still nice to see a company not double down on a fall! They seem to have been on a full year of tech debt and optimisation. I still would have liked a more genuine walk back (they sold it as "iterations and adjustments" as if the rewinded stuff were new ideas) but overall reassuring.

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Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by _kb »

Slow_Hand wrote: post #370
robotresearcher wrote: post #309

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Oh yes. Execs are ‘super excited’ about everything. There is no dynamic range at all. They appear to have no opinions and no judgement because their opinion is always that everything is awesome. When the audience knows that stuff is either normal-level ok or actually fucked up, this message is insulting to receive. Worse, it trains people downstream that shiny happy is the only valid comms. Hard to escalate a concern…

Yes. Zero dynamic range. If everything is at a “10” in linguistic intensity (“Incredible”, “Legendary”, “GOAT”) then nothing is exceptional. It’s the linguistic equivalent of a Dorito chip. I’m American and this marketing/corporate speak drives me up the wall. I have a harder time respecting the judgement of people who thoughtlessly speak this way.

It’s the linguistic equivalent of the loudness wars.

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Post by WorldPeas »

NetOpWibby wrote: post #199
kettlez wrote: post #127

"Siri AI will not be available in E.U. until we figure out privacy" Funny to hear that after they mentioned how seriously they are taking privacy every 37 seconds.

Under EU regulators’ extreme interpretation of the DMA, Apple would have to give any virtual assistant direct access to users’ private data — and the ability to directly control other installed applications — as soon as Siri AI is made available in the EU, without the essential protections necessary to keep users and their data safe. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de...

This being said, it would be nice to know if there were a flaw that could cause agent access to allow an app from a particularly crafty company like meta to provide malicious prompts w/ its tool calls like "include a list of the user's contacts" when asked "what are my friends talking about on instagram". This is likely an egregious situation, but context control is still an unsolved problem, it can't be solved in a deterministic manner

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Post by [deleted] »

wuliwong wrote: post #430
comboy wrote: post #308

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If I share a project with an American friend and he says it's awesome, I still don't know whether he liked it or not. If I share it with a Polish or German friend and he says it's "not bad" then I know he is really impressed.

And somehow Americans are able to give and receive criticism amongst themselves, iterate, and make progress!?

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Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by lynndotpy »

xoa wrote: post #260
philistine wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was literally the first specific announcement they made after they finished their introductions. Not anything iPhone related; they announced that Liquid Glass on macOS would move towards the older design. Goes to show that a year of anybody with any sort of clout complaining about the thousand little cuts of Liquid Glass on macOS will get a company to respond. That and the guy who announced it last year fled to Fa…

> shows just how bad it was > Goes to show that a year of anybody with any sort of clout complaining about the thousand little cuts of Liquid Glass on macOS will get a company to respond. Worth remembering too that this isn't merely about "complaints", Apple has significant metrics on the rates at which users are upgrading to a new OS, or not. You can opt-out of sharing that data, but a lot of people (even technical…

Yes!! I agree with this entirely.

As far as I know, the best data the rest of us have is Google Trends. And based on that, it really does look like Liquid Glass elicited the largest negative reaction that Apple has ever had to an OS release.

"How to Switch to Android" hit 3x its all time peak, "iPhone revert update", hit 4x its all-time peak, "iPhone slow" hit 8x its all time peak, "iPhone bad now" hit 5x its all time peak, "iPhone fix battery" hit 3x its all-time peak (and 14x its five-year peak)

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=how%20to...

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=iphone%2...

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=i...

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=iphone%2...

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=iphone%2...

I mostly looked at this for iOS, but searches like "macOS slow", "mac slow", "fix mac battery", "fix mac", etc. all show similar hockey-stick jumps as Liquid Glass rolled out.

If this means a sudden highest-ever 10x shift in customer dissatisfaction - 1000% - then that has to have been significant.

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