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> Obesity. Being overweight is directly correlated with an increased risk for over a dozen cancers. And people are fatter than ever. Doesn't that just move the question to: why are so many people obese now? Including more obese younger people.
I suspect sugar intake has a drastic impact here. We genuinely have too much of it in everything.
Why are so many young people getting cancer?
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Kinda surprised at the idea that HPV is the cause; at least in the US, there was a fairly large push about 15 years ago to get more people (particularly teenage girls and young women) vaccinated against HPV. Would we not see a corresponding dip in deaths related to HPV-associated cancers by now?
Several things at play here: 1. As others have mentioned, males were excluded from vaccination until relatively recently. This seems like such a stupid decision in hindsight. When I (male) got my vaccines, I was told that it wasn't routinely done in boys "because of availability issues", which I took to mean "because it's expensive". 2. Initial vaccines offered protection against 4 strains of HPV, newer vaccines prot…
Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?
#183Poor diet seems most likely. In particular too much focus on protein and not enough fibre. Most people get enough protein but only 5% of Americans get enough fibre in their diet.
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#184If I had to bet, it would be on HPV causing a majority of the rise in colorectal cancer. It is a major cause of throat cancer in men[0] and causes almost 100% of cervical cancer in women[1]. We have had a significant increase in anal sex over the past 10+ years[2] and are now seeing an increase in colorectal cancer. "Britain has found that the proportion of 16- to 24-year-olds engaging in heterosexual anal intercours…
"Overweight and obesity significantly increase colorectal cancer risk: a meta-analysis of 66 studies revealing a 25–57% elevation in risk" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12181496/
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#185for millions of years we were constantly fasting, then we hunted and killed animals, eating their protein and fat, no carbs, we were constantly in ketosis We recently begun eating carbs, And very very recently started eating tons of processed carbs (because now we got the tech) We are rarely in ketosis, and because of high carbs/sugar consumption, we start developing insulin resistance. (the idea is simple, we create…
I agree with a lot here and practice keto throughout the year and occasionally break to eat burritos, rice, pasta and drink beer because I enjoy them. But our ancestors were not in constant ketosis. They ate substantial carbohydrates in the food they consumed seasonally, though not as much as we consume today because of our tech. Also, doesn’t ice reduce blood flow? Lastly Ramadan and cancer rates are not supported.…
Today I have introduced many carbs back, like sweet potato, cassava, white rice, and fruits etc.. even some orange/grape juice. I just try to stay away from ultra processed foods and occasionally do some fasting.
About our ancestors, I mean... I think it would depend on where in world they were, what was available, and so on... But the majority of fruits didn't existed, and we didn't dominated agriculture and so on... I am not coming from the angle of "we need to go back to eating like our ancestors", but more like in "yeah, they didn't had food all the time, so they kind of were forced into ketosis and autophagy because of fasting"...
I mean, if you do a fast, you know that in like the 24-48 hours window you get a powerful focus, my guess is that the human would focus on hunting. but as you said, we didn't eat too much carbs as today, and the carbs were different as well.. take for example our wheat, it's mainly genetically modified, and so on...
about the ice, yeah.
about the cancer rates, take a look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cancer_ra...
it's not as easy to say "oh it's ramadan and that's it", but you can clearly see that the Middle East region and africa, which have tons of muslims, have lower cancer rates. intermittent fasting is done in ramadan. it will help with autophagy and health (if done properly).. but I agree that there are tons of other factors as you stated.
and because you cited smoking, I wanna share something. I've recently changed my mind about smoking.
I mean.. those cuban old folks that just chew tobacco all day... they die old. also we never hear about "smoking weed will give you lung cancer"...
that's because smoking tobacco... kind of doesn't give you cancer right away.. I mean, tobacco, specially when cured, will develop carcinogens, sure. but it will be like cooking food in a scratched teflon pan...
it's a plant, like marijuana, but it has been industrialized!
I've said to some people I know that smokes cigarettes: "Go to the tobacconist and buy rolling papers, filters, and shredded natural tobacco."... when they smoke they feel much more of a taste of the tobacco itself, feel it way stronger, and feel an absence of other taste which is only in the industrial cigarette.
idk how to explain cause I don't smoke. but I can only guess that those 9999999 chemicals are just gone... they might be added in the industrial process to further addict people idk..
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Of course you can make the case that we did consumed some carbs, that eggs actually have a tiny trace of carbs, and get technical on some points... But the thing is... just restrict potential contaminated food sources. One example, vegetable oils... God had NO participation in the creation of those.. think about it.. How do you make extra virgem olive oil? you take the olive, then press it.. boom. olive oil.. How do…
This is a vibes-based argument, there is no science behind it. Many traditional foods from around the world have relied on nasty, toxic chemical processes since before chemistry was a real science. If anything, modern understanding of chemistry has made the removal of nasty chemicals much more complete and precise.
for example... corn.. we got genetically modified corn, that grows in contaminated soil... eating corn that is genetically modified is bad, eating corn that is not genetically modified but has grown in contaminated soil is bad, now eating gmo corn that has grown in contaminated soil is super bad.. + pesticides and whatever...
all of this is getting into your body....
if you take animals like cattle and chicken, they are eating grass or insects (actually chickens will eat ration from gmo but ok..)
eating meat from cattle is going to yield less contamination, because it has been filtered by nature (grass) + cattle (liver) and so on... there is a chain of filtering..
if the chicken doesn't get sunlight (vitamin d), the eggs will be depleted of vitamin d, and so on...
I mean, even in fish. it's way safer to eat sardines than big fishes (for mercury buildup for example)
in the 1900s one chicken would took 4-5 months to be ready to be killed.. today it's ready within 5-7 weeks... you can ask old folks how the taste of chicken has changed from when they were young to today...
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course you can make the case that we did consumed some carbs, that eggs actually have a tiny trace of carbs, and get technical on some points... But the thing is... just restrict potential contaminated food sources. One example, vegetable oils... God had NO participation in the creation of those.. think about it.. How do you make extra virgem olive oil? you take the olive, then press it.. boom. olive oil.. How do…
Wrong about olive oil that never need hexane extraction. Hexane is used to do a second extraction of the residues from the first extraction, to increase the yield. Of course it is somewhat poisonous. It is done for most cheap olive oil ! When buying olive oil, you have to make sure it is extracted mechanically and not chemically, in France at least it is written as such.
I've only seen mechanically extracted extra virgem olive oil.
I've seen some mixtures of like 80% vegetable oils with 20% natural extra virgin olive oil..
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also like obese young children... how is this even possible? this is very recent... so yeah.. they did sabotage our food. if you think about the human being a black box, and food (macro nutrients, fiber, carbs, protein and fat) being inputs, you could test it and find how to break the system, make it weak, obedient and addicted...
Yes. Also: Look at where the “fat” is being stored. Realize it’s not all “fat” from calories - it’s inflammation, and toxin diversion. Fat doesn’t get stored in your eyebrows in front of your sinus, that’s swelling from eating what the body sees as toxic, and often breathing poison indoors.
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Two things, I think. 1. The original guidance did not call for boys to get the vaccine. It does now. 2. We're talking about two different age groups. The article talks about those under 50. The group who got the HPV vaccine as part of their normal schedule are now just hitting their early 20s. There's also still a huge number of people in the US who have HPV. It's really, really common. "Approximately 42.5 million Am…
Any idea what the percentage of teenagers who are getting the HPV vaccine is? I'm going to guess it's fairly low at this point given that there tend to be religious objections and also given the growing antivaxx sentiments.
Scroll down to the see the per state numbers.
https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/the-hpv-vaccine-acc...
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#190If I had to bet, it would be on HPV causing a majority of the rise in colorectal cancer. It is a major cause of throat cancer in men[0] and causes almost 100% of cervical cancer in women[1]. We have had a significant increase in anal sex over the past 10+ years[2] and are now seeing an increase in colorectal cancer. "Britain has found that the proportion of 16- to 24-year-olds engaging in heterosexual anal intercours…
[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09598...