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I've been driving connected cars for a decade and I haven't felt sold out yet. What am I missing?
Are you asking for articles that show how connected car data is being sold left and right?
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Massachusetts bans sale of precise location data in new privacy rights bill
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Re: Massachusetts bans sale of precise location data in new privacy rights bill
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I bought a car earlier this year and it took about a week before I started getting car warranty junk mail for the new car.
I always thought that is from companies that get their hands on registration data. Or I could be wrong and it is the dealer itself selling it on not the manufacturer.
Pretty sure it's registration data. Anything public is now used for junk. We transferred a piece of property this year and have been getting constant spam for realtors to sell it for us. We bought a used car from an individual and started getting spam for warranties once we registered it and got plates.
Re: Massachusetts bans sale of precise location data in new privacy rights bill
#33California very quietly passed AB-1542 last week which includes precise location data, health data, SSNs, etc. I expect many states to follow suit. Related, General Motors got hit with a $12.75M fine for reselling OnStar location data last month: https://ccpa.world/enforcement/gm-onstar-smart-driver
The FTC settlement with GM allows GM to sell precise location as long as it's anonymized by attaching it to anonymous identifiers rather than personal info. It also allows non-precise location (e.g. zipcode/census-block) attached to identifying information.
Apparently no one at the FTC is smart enough to realize if Bob and anonid both move through the same sequence of approximate locations that the anonid is Bob. Or maybe they aren't that ignorant and just wanted to look like they were doing their job while protecting the surveillance status quo.
Re: Massachusetts bans sale of precise location data in new privacy rights bill
#34Only data that does not exist cannot be misused.
Re: Massachusetts bans sale of precise location data in new privacy rights bill
#35California very quietly passed AB-1542 last week which includes precise location data, health data, SSNs, etc. I expect many states to follow suit. Related, General Motors got hit with a $12.75M fine for reselling OnStar location data last month: https://ccpa.world/enforcement/gm-onstar-smart-driver
The FTC settlement with GM allows GM to sell precise location as long as it's anonymized by attaching it to anonymous identifiers rather than personal info. It also allows non-precise location (e.g. zipcode/census-block) attached to identifying information. Apparently no one at the FTC is smart enough to realize if Bob and anonid both move through the same sequence of approximate locations that the anonid is Bob. Or…
The government measures success in column inches.
Re: Massachusetts bans sale of precise location data in new privacy rights bill
#36still waiting for any of the many existing privacy bills, worldwide, to start doing meaningful enforcement.
We need private right of action. That's the big thing holding up the sweeping Mass privacy law. The house supports a private right to action and the senate only wants the attorney general enforcing the law.
California already has a million toothless laws. Anything without a private right of action may as well not exist.
Re: Massachusetts bans sale of precise location data in new privacy rights bill
#37California very quietly passed AB-1542 last week which includes precise location data, health data, SSNs, etc. I expect many states to follow suit. Related, General Motors got hit with a $12.75M fine for reselling OnStar location data last month: https://ccpa.world/enforcement/gm-onstar-smart-driver
> I expect many states to follow suit. More importantly, many companies will follow California rules even outside California. My car was built to California emissions spec at a time when very few states had stricter rules. (The one major exception seems to be the "sell my data" opt-out and such privacy rules, that industry is sleazy enough that they'll go through extra trouble to keep screwing over non-CA residents.)
Watching "The Price is Right" made California a mythical place for me as a child in the Midwest. All the cars being given away, they were sure to mention, followed "California emissions standards!"
No surprise. I ended up moving here.
Re: Massachusetts bans sale of precise location data in new privacy rights bill
#38Only data that does not exist cannot be misused.
A moment of high drama in the courtroom:
"Did you notice anything odd about the defendants vehicle?"
"Yes."
"What was that?"
"He had disabled his GPS and telemetry systems."
Re: Massachusetts bans sale of precise location data in new privacy rights bill
#39California very quietly passed AB-1542 last week which includes precise location data, health data, SSNs, etc. I expect many states to follow suit. Related, General Motors got hit with a $12.75M fine for reselling OnStar location data last month: https://ccpa.world/enforcement/gm-onstar-smart-driver
it's out of Committee in the House and passed a House vote.. not done yet
Re: Massachusetts bans sale of precise location data in new privacy rights bill
#40Will this have reach and teeth though? I can imagine loopholes to this... nothing stops facebook/google from buying this data from companies not in Massachusetts? and facebook/google don't have to give advertisers the location information but can still use that information when determining the advertisement to return, right? In theory the big silicon valley "targets" of this bill don't actually have a huge incentive…
The intent of the law is probably to prevent the data from being sold*, so if the big Silicon Valley ad companies aren’t selling it, they are already complying with the law, right? The goal isn’t to destroy companies that are already not doing the thing.
* to the extent to which MA can do that… I mean it’s one state, so we should judge it’s accomplishments by that standard. One possibility could be that the rest of them get their act together, or at least, every state that engineers are willing to live in does.