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Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by andrewl-hn »

WoodenChair wrote: post #25

Apple very rarely admits mistakes. The fact they're rolling back some of the extremeness in Liquid Glass and actively mentioned in the keynote that they very seriously took the user feedback shows just how bad it was, at least initially.

> Apple very rarely admits mistakes

Excep every time they do a big redesign like this. This happened when they moved away from skeuomorphism in iOS7(?) and then backpedalled hard in the following revision because of negative user feedback. Similar thing happened when they presented the reinvented Safari (I do't think that one even survived through betas). And it is happening now.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by wuliwong »

jimbokun wrote: post #339
Freedom2 wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious how this trait is American? Is there something about the way Americans speak that is fake?

Beyond just American, they are trying to emulate Jobs style without his genius for presenting in a compelling and attention grabbing way.

I really think this is it. It's crazy how flat and disingenuous it all feels.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by graypegg »

slg wrote: post #140
cromka wrote: post #113

Spatial Framing? Yay, even more fakeness in photos, creating ever more artificial, never-happened memories!

There's something dystopian about the way that they are championing the blurring of the lines between photos and AI generated content with no consideration for the implications of that tech. Apple likes to pretend they are conservative with this tech rather than simply being behind, but this type of thing isn't a conservative feature.

I got a depressed-laugh out of the "clean up" demo. It's nothing new, but they always use other people as the example of "distractions". There's something very old-school stalin-style dystopian about normalizing airbrushing out everyone else from your photos because their existence is "distracting". [0] Show me an example with like... a leaf blew in the frame or something. Not straight up "this photo isn't about my friends that took this photo with me, get rid of them".

[0] https://www.youtube.com/live/hF8swzNR1-o?t=3800s

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by thiht »

chris_money202 wrote: post #270

I have to say, I extremely dislike AI processing of photos. The camera is a vehicle to capture the realness of the world around us, including the imperfect moments. Distorting that with AI and being okay with it is really disappointing.

> The camera is a vehicle to capture the realness of the world around us, including the imperfect moments

I mean... that's your opinion, not a fact :)

I kinda agree, yet I will make small edits to my pictures to make them more like I felt than how it looked. Maybe in a happy moment the sky was more blue to me than it actually was and I want my picture to reflect it. Maybe I was happier and less tired than the picture remembers it and I want to fix it.

If some people want to AI process their pictures to make them match their memories better, or even to shape better memories, who are we to judge?

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Post by ACCount37 »

jimbokun wrote: post #355
ACCount37 wrote: post #70

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Not by much. ChatGPT alone is among the most popular apps ever made, and it's available both inside and outside Apple's walled garden. Letting it reach audience in countries where Apple doesn't have much of a foothold. I do wonder if new Siri is any good though. Apple used to be a genuine AI leader, but they totally sleepwalked through LLM revolution, and Siri's response quality was a sad joke for a while now. Did th…

> Apple used to be a genuine AI leader when?

iPhone 8 shipped an NPU in 2017 - among the first consumer electronics vendors to put dedicated AI acceleration into something. iPhone X then took advantage of that with TrueDepth and the infrastructure around it.

There was a real push from Apple at the time to enter the AI game - mainly for image processing purposes, which was the mainstream flavor of AI at the time.

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Post by andrewl-hn »

arrowleaf wrote: post #366
theshrike79 wrote: post #137

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To me it just sounds so very American. Using so many praising adjectives they stop meaning anything anymore. If everything is fabulous and great and you’re always excited or proud, that becomes the baseline.

American or corporate? I'm surprised that corporate talk overseas isn't overly enthusiastic! As an American, most of the stream has sounded very 'California' mixed with corporate.

A lot of corporate speak is developed in the US and then companies all over the world spread it around. Often the adoption happens without deep understanding of the concept, and without adaptation to local realities. And thus it feels much more unnatural.

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Post by mattbrewsbytes »

antirez wrote: post #36

They try so hard to do a polished presentation that everything is kinda fake and unauthentic. I don't understand how this attitude survived so many years.

> is kinda fake and unauthentic

I think Apple can't find their voice since Steve Jobs passed/stopped doing the presentations. Thats why it feels inauthentic. I imagine its also hard to really feel "best (iphone|ipad|macos|etc) yet" when they are debuting features that existed elsewhere for a while. Its just a massive disconnect from anyone but fans. The same could be said for innovative features, whats left to innovate on smart phones?

In some ways both things are like having to be the person coming on after an amazing presentation or comic or musical act. How do you follow it?

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Post by robomartin »

WoodenChair wrote: post #25

Apple very rarely admits mistakes. The fact they're rolling back some of the extremeness in Liquid Glass and actively mentioned in the keynote that they very seriously took the user feedback shows just how bad it was, at least initially.

I would love to be able to have a conversation with the people who decided Liquid Glass was a good idea. The first question would be:

Given all other truly useful things you could implement as well as bug fixes, why did you think that investing time and money on Liquid Glass would deliver useful value to users?

I wonder how much time and money they wasted on something that nobody wanted, cared for, needed or solved any real problem?

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by wtallis »

acdha wrote: post #427
xiaoyu2006 wrote: post #311

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I hope they redesign their magic mouse. It's not a real product.

This is off-topic and it’s especially a waste of attention because it’s a social media meme, not a real problem. People who actually use them don’t spend time talking about it because it means every few months you plug it in long enough for a coffee break, and in return you can use it for many years without the connector breaking.

Even if you set aside the stupid charging situation, it's still a bad mouse. The multitouch capabilities are not well used by the software, and it's the only mouse I've ever used that routinely sends scroll events while I'm just trying to click or drag. Their laptops are pretty good at rejecting accidental touchpad inputs despite those touchpads being quite large, but the mouse is a constant source of unintentional inputs.
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