I believe the single common caiae of increase for all types of cancer is immunosuppression. Immune system might clear a cancer cell that would otherwise evolve to fulminant disease, every few days. A slight immunosuppression might explain a astonishing increase. All the environmental factors referred are candidates for that but the most important is chronic psychological stress, which is rampant in modern adults and not measured, so not studied, in research.
Why are so many young people getting cancer?
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#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
Respectfully, that's a crock of nonsense. "It's not at absolute zero, therefore there's some chemical process going on, therefore we don't know if it's causing significant portions of cancer"? The number of things you can say that about is frankly infinite. You have zero reason to believe that any of the "chemical processes" that happen to an apple (or any food) in long term storage have anything to do with cancer. T…
Science is building hypothesis and testing them. It is not saying it seems unlikely so I don't care. You can look up the changes to green beans depending if they are fresh, shipped a huge distance without bring frozen or frozen. Some nutrients change, these changes could affect satiety which could affect obesity, but you just don't care?
> Science is building hypothesis and testing them.
Bad science is building hypothesis and promulgating it publicly alongside zero evidence whatsoever.
The discussion is about stored apples specifically causing increased cancer rates, paired with an arbitrary woo categorization of "living" vs "dead" food. OP wondered why this did not occupy a larger portion of public discourse. Again, this hypothesis exists alongside humans writing more years whose first digit is "2", as evidence-supported cancer progenitors.
> Some nutrients change, these changes could affect satiety which could affect obesity
Yes, if you walk back the "living vs dead" woo concept and expand the scope to more varieties of foods than just apples and more processing methods than passively storing otherwise intact fruit, then you exit the zero evidence crackpot zone.
Lots of crackpot woo theories are similarly half a step away from real evidence-supported theories. Another example would be biodynamic agriculture, which looks a lot like organic and integrated farming practices right up until you get to the part about burying ground quartz stuffed into the horn of a cow so you can harvest cosmic forces in the soil.
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> Obesity. Being overweight is directly correlated with an increased risk for over a dozen cancers. And people are fatter than ever. Doesn't that just move the question to: why are so many people obese now? Including more obese younger people.
I suspect sugar intake has a drastic impact here. We genuinely have too much of it in everything.
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#164Surprised no none wrote it, my bet is on micro plastic
I think it's worse then we all think right now.
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#165I believe the single common caiae of increase for all types of cancer is immunosuppression. Immune system might clear a cancer cell that would otherwise evolve to fulminant disease, every few days. A slight immunosuppression might explain a astonishing increase. All the environmental factors referred are candidates for that but the most important is chronic psychological stress, which is rampant in modern adults and…
This doesn't sound right to me.
I've heard people speculate about the opposite actually: psychological stress causing the an overactive immune system, resulting in chronic inflammation and a prevalence of auto-immune disease.
I'm a layman though, would like for someone to clarify.
Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?
#166for millions of years we were constantly fasting, then we hunted and killed animals, eating their protein and fat, no carbs, we were constantly in ketosis We recently begun eating carbs, And very very recently started eating tons of processed carbs (because now we got the tech) We are rarely in ketosis, and because of high carbs/sugar consumption, we start developing insulin resistance. (the idea is simple, we create…
Of course you can make the case that we did consumed some carbs, that eggs actually have a tiny trace of carbs, and get technical on some points... But the thing is... just restrict potential contaminated food sources. One example, vegetable oils... God had NO participation in the creation of those.. think about it.. How do you make extra virgem olive oil? you take the olive, then press it.. boom. olive oil.. How do…
Wrong about olive oil that never need hexane extraction.
Hexane is used to do a second extraction of the residues from the first extraction, to increase the yield. Of course it is somewhat poisonous. It is done for most cheap olive oil ! When buying olive oil, you have to make sure it is extracted mechanically and not chemically, in France at least it is written as such.
Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Plastics, the increase in background radiation, pesticides, and or a side effect of extra calories are all possibilities. Daily allergy medicines might also be a factor as those reduce immune response slightly.
There is no increase in background radiation.
This suggests otherwise, https://radwatch.berkeley.edu/background-radiation/
Another exposure increase is from increased home insulation likely increases radon exposure.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's see what we got so far: - Infectious Diseases - Sexual Habits - Obesity - Agricultural Chemicals - Dietary Shifts - Food Processing & Storage - Microplastics and Forever Chemicals - Environmental & Indoor Pollution - Sleep Deprivation - Covid Vaccines That is quite insane. When things become hard or impossible to understand, even hardcore atheists turn towards secular religion.
I don’t understand why this is insane? Why do you expect a single cause?
These are all examples where commenters have confidently said that this specific thing is the cause (independent of any data). It is a little odd on a story about how the actual experts are working hard to understand the (likely multifaceted) causes of this trend that there are oodles of people just declaring "oh it is obviously this."