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Sam Bankman-Fried applies for a pardon from Trump

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Re: Sam Bankman-Fried applies for a pardon from Trump

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I was expecting this to be done by now as the administration is not worried about optics, so not sure what’s holding it up.

Unlike CZ, who made Trump and his family hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars, SBF has absolutely nothing to offer Trump. He's broke and a complete outcast. Ross Ulbricht became a cause celebre among libertarians, but SBF was always genuinely despised by pretty much everyone.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly1qrl9l1qo CZ pardon- for reference

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried applies for a pardon from Trump

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I was expecting this to be done by now as the administration is not worried about optics, so not sure what’s holding it up.

Unlike CZ, who made Trump and his family hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars, SBF has absolutely nothing to offer Trump. He's broke and a complete outcast. Ross Ulbricht became a cause celebre among libertarians, but SBF was always genuinely despised by pretty much everyone.

Don't be a clown. If SBF was out of jail he could raise a twenty billion dollar fund tomorrow.

His Anthropic investment alone would give him credibility. If it hadn't been liquidated for pennies FTX would have been one of the best performing funds of all time, even with the theft and mismanagement.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried applies for a pardon from Trump

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Do pardons require a full confession?

There's this notion from the Supreme Court case Burdick v. United States (1915) that accepting a pardon is an implicit admission of guilt. Therefore, a person can refuse a pardon. There isn't anything in the decision to justify the argument that accepting the pardon is an admission of guilt, it's just stated as a fact. It seems at odds with situations where pardons have been used to correct miscarriages of justice in…

Just to clarify, a pardon in the ordinary sense can't be refused. If you're imprisoned and the President pardon's you, you can't decide to refuse the pardon and remain in prison. As soon as the pardon is granted you are released, whether you like it or not, whether you "accept" it or not.

The Burdick case had to do with an individual who had not yet been convicted of anything being offered a pardon in exchange for testimony that could have otherwise incriminated him. The Supreme Court ruled that in that specific scenario someone accepting a pardon could be seen as admitting guilt, so the pardon couldn't be forced on Burdick to strip away his fifth amendment right and compel his testimony.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried applies for a pardon from Trump

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Staff working for Giuliani reported that pardons cost $2,000,000.

If it were that cheap Sean Combs would be a free man. They probably increase the expected bribe based on your perceived ability to pay.

you forget how racist trump is

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried applies for a pardon from Trump

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it were that cheap Sean Combs would be a free man. They probably increase the expected bribe based on your perceived ability to pay.

It's probably as much about PR as it is about money - Puffy is a heavy lift on the PR side...

Giuliani was hawking pardons in the final days of Trump's first term. I'd expect that Trump will be much more interested in money than PR in the final days of his second term too. But he might not live that long, which must be excruciating if you're a wealthy crook.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried applies for a pardon from Trump

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I was expecting this to be done by now as the administration is not worried about optics, so not sure what’s holding it up.

Unlike CZ, who made Trump and his family hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars, SBF has absolutely nothing to offer Trump. He's broke and a complete outcast. Ross Ulbricht became a cause celebre among libertarians, but SBF was always genuinely despised by pretty much everyone.

> Ross Ulbricht became a cause celebre among libertarians

And was a campaign promise Trump issued in order to secure votes from that base.

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