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Re: Siri AI

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Post by madeofpalk »

minimaxir wrote: post #8

I wonder how much of Siri AI is Apple-developed and how much of it is Google-developed as a result of Gemini. The a) search demos and b) image generation demos seem unlikely to have been done by Apple alone, the demos being closer to Google Search and Nano Banana respectively.

Is Siri any more or less than “just” an agentic harness such as OpenClaw? How much of what that harness does is up to the LLM or the harness itself?

In my mind the Gemini LLM defines the bounds of capability and capacity, but any actual functionality or usefulness (or lack of) comes from Apple’s Siri harness.

Re: Siri AI

#92

Post by lxgr »

nixpulvis wrote: post #60
seaal wrote: post #13

>Fix passwords with a tap. >The Passwords app alerts you to weak or compromised passwords and can update them on your behalf without the hassle. Finally, I hope this works well. Personally one of the worst things to deal with.

Apple Passwords reliably updates passwords in its database before the password is confirmed to be actually changed. I've been locked out of accounts many times to this. They really need to focus on these basic UX issues.

Does it at least store the old password for a while in some archive, like most competitors do?

Re: Siri AI

#93

Post by umpalumpaaa »

nixpulvis wrote: post #60
seaal wrote: post #13

>Fix passwords with a tap. >The Passwords app alerts you to weak or compromised passwords and can update them on your behalf without the hassle. Finally, I hope this works well. Personally one of the worst things to deal with.

Apple Passwords reliably updates passwords in its database before the password is confirmed to be actually changed. I've been locked out of accounts many times to this. They really need to focus on these basic UX issues.

1Password gives you access to previous passwords you had for that reason.

Unfortunately not for other fields like email, notes etc…

IMHO the perfect password app could just keep all previous versions of any field until the user deletes the history.

Re: Siri AI

#94

Post by visarga »

Before they add AI they better fix the frigging search function in settings, it is horrible, you need to know their exact words, and Apple has a funny naming sense. Hierarchies nested so deep you never find anything. I come to use Claude or ChatGPT to tell me the right incantations to find a setting.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by [deleted] »

ryukoposting wrote: post #69
graypegg wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watching the keynote at our office on a big screen and everyone collectively sighing when they announced the name felt indicative haha. I think it just feels uncreative? Siri as a brand has some value, but if you want it to feel like a watershed moment where old Siri is "behind us" finally, just give it a new name.

Or just keep calling it Siri, and announce "hey look, Siri does some cool new things." AI is a technology, not a product. Consumers don't care about technologies, they care about what the product does versus what they currently have. I think Jobs was an asshole, but one good thing I can say about him is that he understood the difference between technology and products. Imagine if they had called it the "iPod HDD."

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Re: Siri AI

#97

Post by thewebguyd »

k2xl wrote: post #43

I’m honestly surprised Apple didn’t retire the Siri brand. At this point, “Siri” has a pretty strong cultural association with being underwhelming or unhelpful. Even if the new version is dramatically better, convincing people to give Siri another shot may be harder than launching the same technology under a new name. Feels like a missed opportunity to reset expectations.

Yeah missed opportunity. They could have even had a fake funeral for Siri like Jobs did for OS 9, or a "retirement party" or something. Leave the Siri brand behind and launch this as something brand new.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by xp84 »

bilsbie wrote: post #53

It’s weird it says I can ask Siri about a document in front of me but can I ask it about a webpage I’m currently reading? (It’s been driving me crazy there’s no “AI this” button to discuss whatever is on my screen.)

Edge has had this for a long time. I can highlight a string and right-click, 'Send to Copilot' and click "explain" and it'll prompt it to 'explain this passage, particularly in the context of the current page.'

Note: I have MS 365 personal or whatever it's called this week so I'm not sure how Copilot acts for a completely free user.

Re: Siri AI

#99

Post by xp84 »

atulvi wrote: post #72

How is this different from the chatgpt apple intelligence thing from last year?

This time they really promise it'll ship

But fundamentally, the real difference is they have now bought and white-labeled Gemini to replace all the stuff they failed to make 2 years ago.

Re: Siri AI

#100

Post by graypegg »

ryukoposting wrote: post #69
graypegg wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watching the keynote at our office on a big screen and everyone collectively sighing when they announced the name felt indicative haha. I think it just feels uncreative? Siri as a brand has some value, but if you want it to feel like a watershed moment where old Siri is "behind us" finally, just give it a new name.

Or just keep calling it Siri, and announce "hey look, Siri does some cool new things." AI is a technology, not a product. Consumers don't care about technologies, they care about what the product does versus what they currently have. I think Jobs was an asshole, but one good thing I can say about him is that he understood the difference between technology and products. Imagine if they had called it the "iPod HDD."

The ergonomics of “the new X” sort of fall apart when you’re releasing it in stages. (Not in EU/only in English) It spawns a lot of conversations like “do you have the new Siri? Uh… I think so? It’s still crap though.” You cart around this bad brand image because you pitch this big watershed moment and 2/3rds of people are still using the “wrong” Siri.

Siri and Voice Control were both usable during the same time and it feels like it could work here too.

Totally agree that AI is just an implementation detail though. IMO that new product name should NOT have “AI” in it at all.

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