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Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

joakleaf wrote: post #128
antirez wrote: post #36

They try so hard to do a polished presentation that everything is kinda fake and unauthentic. I don't understand how this attitude survived so many years.

It feels fake, because they speak in a way that sounds unnatural and overelaborate. It is so long, with so many unnecessary sentences. And it feels like everything is said at least twice; First a generic statement about the new feature. Then a specific example, or a deeper explanation of what the first generic statement was. Then a demo. And then a conclusion to the future. The old Steve Jobs keynotes focused on the…

One thing about Jobs is that he was genuinely excited about much of the stuff he was showing, and even if you knew he was showing some useless BS (like coverflow, something I remember he absolutely loved), it made it interesting to watch. If today's presenters are in any way excited about what they're showing (or, more likely, talking about), that excitement has been polished away by all the takes they probably had to film.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by isametry »

praash wrote: post #120
breatheoften wrote: post #72

Man that conversation history navigation for the new Siri app looks super unuseable ... how the hell am I supposed to actually find the conversation I want with the super-dynamic non-ordered 2-column offset-row view thing ...? It looks hard to use ... Also the 'floating semi-window but not a window' thing when using contextual siri in the context of some other app ... sure looks like it won't work with cmd-tab naviga…

I laughed on the groundbreaking emphasis that you can move and resize the chat window because it's a Mac. You're up to something, maybe they really have a broken pseudo-window with basic UI interaction hacked on top.

The “window” also doesn’t belong to an app! His menu bar continued to show Finder as the active app, not Siri.

Which means, if shipped like this, the Siri dialog will be a poor excuse for a window with:

- no Cmd+Tab, no Cmd+`

- no minimize??

- generally no presence in the Dock whatsoever

- no keyboard shortcuts beyond basic text editing ones

- no smart window resize

- …

So in other words, no Justin, that’s not a window. That’s a resizable Spotlight pop-up with an “X” button.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by antipaul »

antirez wrote: post #36

They try so hard to do a polished presentation that everything is kinda fake and unauthentic. I don't understand how this attitude survived so many years.

Dunno. I love these events. Polished, well executed, fun. I always walk away inspired.

But then, I'm a fan of Apple, overall, and I like most of what they do.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by smallmancontrov »

evan_ wrote: post #96
tapoxi wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really miss, as a late 90's/early 2000's apple fan, seeing Steve come up and joke with the audience then just show off real products or features and why they're cool. They really sterilized this whole thing after he passed. It's as exciting as a Microsoft keynote now. Just watch a normal presentation like Mac OS X 10.2 or 10.3, it's not iPhone level earth shattering but he made it fun.

I remember one where there were technical issues so Steve just started telling stories about the old days with Woz... impossible to imagine that from ANY tech company today

Not to spoil the magic but the plan B dialog was somewhat rehearsed too. Award for the best recovery lines goes to James Dempsey and the "I Love (NS)View" song. "I, uh, forgot to mention up front that this song is a beta version. It's feature complete, mind you, but I won't have the words memorized until October..."

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by tpdly »

crooked-v wrote: post #290
tpdly wrote: post #277

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Apple would have to allow USERS the possibility of giving any virtual assistant direct access to their own private data. Is that accurate?

Apple doesn't trust other providers. See, for example, the ongoing attempts by Facebook & co to exfiltrate as much data as possible. A theoretical Facebook alternative here to super-Siri would have a pipe to slurp up the entire phone's data. This kind of thing overlaps with the anti-competitive practices driven by Apple's MBAs (like the whole thing with Epic), but it's a genuine concern and one their engineering peop…

That sounds legit, but do you think its out of scope? Scam texts and emails result in exfiltrated data, maybe they have to require iMessage and iCloud Mail too?

If Facebook's Meta-Siri is being sketchy, that's a problem with Meta-Siri. Take it off the market, bring down the law. Promote competition, and bad actors must be made to loose. Can we not just status-quo fallacy that re dysfunctional consumer protections? or at maybe agree that the perfect-world scope is one that puts exfiltrators in jail, not just rejected from the app store.

Instead we'll just have Siri AI and Google Assistant AI, and no decent competition. I guess maybe we'll get a Meta phone, if the only way to compete is on the entire mobile computing vertical.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

llm_nerd wrote: post #87
try-working wrote: post #71

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Nobody likes this. How did you come up with the idea to claim that was Apple's reasoning?

Seeing people whining and gnashing and bitching, in vein it should be observed, about this sort of nonsense is so uproarious and, quite honestly, pathetic. Like the root post whining that it's too polished. Christ. Get a grip and go touch grass if this is the sort of pathetic nonsense someone actually takes the time to whine about. It's actually funny how every single presentation like this always gets topped by prof…

Your comment is the most upset I've seen in this thread. Maybe re-read what you wrote and take your own advice.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by proxy_skate »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #212
joakleaf wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels fake, because they speak in a way that sounds unnatural and overelaborate. It is so long, with so many unnecessary sentences. And it feels like everything is said at least twice; First a generic statement about the new feature. Then a specific example, or a deeper explanation of what the first generic statement was. Then a demo. And then a conclusion to the future. The old Steve Jobs keynotes focused on the…

That parental controls presentation felt like the same 3 bullet points delivered 4 times over with the vibe of a group presentation where every team member had to present but there was only 1 slide of content between the bunch.

It's a well known fact that it is quite difficult for some parents to setup and use parental controls, I believe it was just to fully explain it to people that might not know much about how parental controls work.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by comboy »

Freedom2 wrote: post #243
theshrike79 wrote: post #137

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To me it just sounds so very American. Using so many praising adjectives they stop meaning anything anymore. If everything is fabulous and great and you’re always excited or proud, that becomes the baseline.

Curious how this trait is American? Is there something about the way Americans speak that is fake?

If I share a project with an American friend and he says it's awesome, I still don't know whether he liked it or not.

If I share it with a Polish or German friend and he says it's "not bad" then I know he is really impressed.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by robotresearcher »

Freedom2 wrote: post #243
theshrike79 wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me it just sounds so very American. Using so many praising adjectives they stop meaning anything anymore. If everything is fabulous and great and you’re always excited or proud, that becomes the baseline.

Curious how this trait is American? Is there something about the way Americans speak that is fake?

Oh yes.

Execs are ‘super excited’ about everything. There is no dynamic range at all. They appear to have no opinions and no judgement because their opinion is always that everything is awesome. When the audience knows that stuff is either normal-level ok or actually fucked up, this message is insulting to receive.

Worse, it trains people downstream that shiny happy is the only valid comms. Hard to escalate a concern when you don’t know how to start the message with how super excited you are about it.

It drove me crazy during my corporate period.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by antipaul »

kettlez wrote: post #127

"Siri AI will not be available in E.U. until we figure out privacy" Funny to hear that after they mentioned how seriously they are taking privacy every 37 seconds.

Umm, that's neither a direct quote, nor even a paraphrase.

This is due to EU's wider tech regulation "DMA"

And, in fact, it's due to DMA's mandate leaning _against_ privacy:

> under EU regulators’ extreme interpretation of the DMA, Apple would have to give any virtual assistant direct access to users’ private data — and the ability to directly control other installed applications — as soon as Siri AI is made available in the EU, without the essential protections necessary to keep users and their data safe.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de...

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