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Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

#91
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why wouldn't pressing the Play button, when no media session is available, not open the music player?

I don't use Apple Music, so opening their music player only wastes my attention and time. It happens if you accidentally press play on your headphones too. Then you need to quit Apple Music, for no good reason. And you can't uninstall it!

A similar scourge is encroaching on Google-branded android phones, as they add mandatory apps to cover stuff like supporting earbuds you don't own.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

#92

The same thing happens with iPhone and car bluetooth. It is super annyoing and many times, a podcast will be playing in the background while the car has FM/radio selected. This is incredibly frustrating and bad user experience. The worst part is it is not clear if this is Apple's fault or some buggy old firmware in the car's audio stack that is at fault (this happens consistently on 2017 Tesla Model S).

I too have seen conflicts between CarPlay and the radio. My car's a Hyundai.

I mostly listen to the radio, with an occasional trip where I instead listen to a podcast or music via CarPlay.

What I've found greatly helps is when I finish a trip where I've used CarPlay after I park but before turning the car off I open my phone, open control center, tap the now playing widget, tap the symbol on that for output selection, and make sure it is set to iPhone Speaker. I then hit the Media button in the car and select FM. That starts the radio playing. Then I stop the radio and shut off the car.

Next time I use the car CarPlay connects normally but does NOT take over the media playback. If I hit the play button in the car it starts playing the radio.

This works fine for me because as I said I mostly listen to radio. It is not that big of a deal the once a week or so that I listen via CarPlay to do those extra steps at the end of a trip.

It would probably be a lot more annoying if I was frequently switching between radio and CarPlay.

In either case I would definitely like a setting somewhere that makes it so the play button in the car plays whatever source was playing the last time you turned off playback.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

#93
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why wouldn't pressing the Play button, when no media session is available, not open the music player?

It cannot assume which media player I want to use, so the best course of action is to do nothing.

The best course of action would be to let the user specify their default music app to bind the keys to.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it's not the music player I choose to use. I would be ok with it, if I could change the default to e.g. VLC or Spotify.

or turn it off entirely because guess what? Most people are accidently hitting this play/pause button or they hit it thinking youtube is going to respond and instead they get Apple's seriously shite music player. classic apple no respect for me and my choices.

YouTube does respond to it though?

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

#95
post #59

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^ How can you make such an obviously wrong statement? Drag Music app to Trash, and that it! Like you do with any other app.

As a non power of Mac (only recently switched), I'll definitely try this. My repeated attempts to remove from Dock and hide it all failed: half the time I remove my ear buds the Apple Music pops up in the middle of my screen and auto-enables itself in the Dock...

The Dock just contains a bunch of shortcuts. The app itself lives in the /Applications folder along with the rest of them that you can choose to add to your dock (by just dragging them down there and letting a spot open up for it).

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

#96
I needed something like this a few months ago. I use my MacBook to run my (musical) keyboard rig for live performances, and use low-latency wireless headphones for monitoring. The headphones have a transmitter dongle that plugs into my laptop, and the dongle sends a "play/pause" command if I press a button on my headphones...causing Music to launch and begin playing audio out of my default output device. It doesn't even care whether my headphone transmitter is selected as the default output device; in a complex multi-device setup, I can press a button on my headphones and it will happily play audio out of some other device.

This is problematic because if I were to accidentally hit the button in the middle of a set, and it decides to default to whatever interface is connected to the P.A. system, then now I've just started blasting some random song at full volume to everyone in the venue.

(It's not an immediate problem for me anymore because I've reworked my hardware setup such that the dongle connects through my audio interface rather than directly to my laptop, meaning my laptop no longer receives "play/pause" commands from it. There were additional reasons for this rework, but preventing this misbehavior was absolutely part of the consideration.)

It's absurd that a premium device marketed to creative professionals has unconfigurable behavior like this which is so unacceptable for a live show.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

#97

I wish there was a way to stop it from ever appearing as spotlight result - when I type ‘music’, the first result (always) should be the music app I use, not their stuff

Recently I've been using a mac more, and--even with the low bar of Windows default search--I've been very disappointed with Spotlight.

For example, it keeps polluting my results with things like preinstalled system music demo files. There's no option to exclude the location, nor to selectively disable "Garageband" results while keeping other apps I actually do use for work.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

#98
post #66

I still can't believe they killed iTunes. I used to have my entire digital music library in iTunes. Most of that was music I had ripped myself from CD, but I had a handful of albums I bought of iTunes and even some TV shows. When they wholesale abandoned iTunes and deleted from Mac OS in favor of...whatever Apple Music is, I knew I'd never trust them again. I searched for some decent mp3 players for a while, and even…

I had an OO perl replacement for iTunes back in the day (to learn OO perl, mostly). It had a web frontend, and also handled ripping and cd metadata with “insert disk, up arrow enter”. It failed to eject the disk iff there was a problem with the rip / transcode / metadata. I had 3-4 CDROMs in a desktop for parallelism.

Maybe I should have an LLM port to rust. It was under a thousand lines of code.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

#99

It's very sad to see Apple using these lowbrow Microsoft tactics. Press ganging your users into launching your other shit product is brand cannibalism.

These kind of things backfire very hard. I will never ever use Apple Music whatever products, never. Just like those drawn to this remedy like flies to sugar. They make so shitty and offensive user experience that supporting them by not avoiding the vicinity of it is a crime against humanity! Basically supporting bullying kind of behaviour.

Why not to have a simple way to turn this offensive behaviour off? Nonsense. It is intentionally offensive and forceful! Straight forceful behaviour that needs to be cut down at the sprout! Otherwise it will multiply and suffocate you down the line.

Too much of the product designers adapt this arrogant attitude, Apple is just a (sizeable) drop in the sea!

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

#100
post #34

It's very sad to see Apple using these lowbrow Microsoft tactics. Press ganging your users into launching your other shit product is brand cannibalism.

But why wouldn't pressing the Play button, when no media session is available, not open the music player?

This question is fascinating. The reason why pressing the Play button when no media session is available should not open the music player is because there is no media session available. Why would launching Apple Music be the desired or even expected behavior?
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