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Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by paulgb »

bound008 wrote: post #63

PSA: Its Unix. sudo chmod -x /Applications/Music.app edit: sorry about that. this used to work before the Music.app moved to /System/Applications

I wish it were that simple.

    ~: sudo chmod -x /Applications/Music.app       
    chmod: /Applications/Music.app: No such file or directory
    ~: sudo chmod -x /System/Applications/Music.app
    chmod: Unable to change file mode on /System/Applications/Music.app: Operation not permitted
(Mac OS Tahoe 26.5)

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by californical »

titzer wrote: post #66

I still can't believe they killed iTunes. I used to have my entire digital music library in iTunes. Most of that was music I had ripped myself from CD, but I had a handful of albums I bought of iTunes and even some TV shows. When they wholesale abandoned iTunes and deleted from Mac OS in favor of...whatever Apple Music is, I knew I'd never trust them again. I searched for some decent mp3 players for a while, and even…

Check out Swinsian.

It is basically old iTunes with some UI improvements and modern features built around somebody who has their own library to manage. Been around for a long time.

It’s great software that I’m willing to pay for in today’s world for sure.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by Savageman »

mritun wrote: post #59
jacobsenscott wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It cannot be uninstalled

^ How can you make such an obviously wrong statement? Drag Music app to Trash, and that it! Like you do with any other app.

As a non power of Mac (only recently switched), I'll definitely try this.

My repeated attempts to remove from Dock and hide it all failed: half the time I remove my ear buds the Apple Music pops up in the middle of my screen and auto-enables itself in the Dock...

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by al_borland »

hedgehog wrote: post #74
titzer wrote: post #66

I still can't believe they killed iTunes. I used to have my entire digital music library in iTunes. Most of that was music I had ripped myself from CD, but I had a handful of albums I bought of iTunes and even some TV shows. When they wholesale abandoned iTunes and deleted from Mac OS in favor of...whatever Apple Music is, I knew I'd never trust them again. I searched for some decent mp3 players for a while, and even…

iTunes and iPhoto both. Given how good the tools are getting, and how much existing sample code is available, it seems likely someone will do a good job of reincarnating them in the near future. Apple broke the apps I used most on the Mac and then they added the bubblicious design crime UI, no thanks.

I found a WinAmp clone, written in Swift and AppKit, in the App Store yesterday. It was a month old, and from the description (ex. "No Electron, no bloat." and "No telemetry, no tracking, no accounts") it was almost certainly vibe coded. All the things it was saying were things I like, but written in a very AI way.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by lucideer »

jxmorris12 wrote: post #73

> The app does absolutely no work in the background. It works by simply existing as a running process, thanks to having the same bundle identifier as the Music app. I love clever, low-or-no-code engineering solutions like this. You typically need to understand a systems very deeply to reach this level of elegance. In this case, one has to understand exactly what happens when the play button is pressed in Mac OS, how…

On the contrary, this feels like a great (hypothetical) example of how to use coding agents effectively.

> Codex as of right now would write some overpowered application that polls in a loop looking for Music App starts and killing them

Most human engineers would also do this. It's a relative rarity to find someone writing things this elegantly.

Similarly, if you asked an agent to "Stop the Apple Music app from launching", it would likely try to do what most humans would do. Otoh if you asked an agent to explain why the Apple Music app launches, based on the discoveries it presents to you from its investigation you would quickly discover for yourself that asking it to make a zero code app that collides with Music is the best course of action.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by cryptoz »

dlev_pika wrote: post #57
lxgr wrote: post #16

Reading this title made “The Miracle of Joey Ramone” by U2 play in my head.

Oh man, throwback to when they forced the U2 albums on to everyone’s device for ReasonsTM

It's not even a throwback. That U2 album still shows up if I accidentally open Apple Music. I haaaaate it. I disliked U2 before any of this, but now I have absolutely sworn to never ever listen to any of their music.

Google did the same thing with Transformers 2 I think. It still shows up as Purchased for me even though I absolutely did not purchase that. Good way to ensure I never ever watch any Transformers movie!

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by titzer »

asdff wrote: post #70
titzer wrote: post #66

I still can't believe they killed iTunes. I used to have my entire digital music library in iTunes. Most of that was music I had ripped myself from CD, but I had a handful of albums I bought of iTunes and even some TV shows. When they wholesale abandoned iTunes and deleted from Mac OS in favor of...whatever Apple Music is, I knew I'd never trust them again. I searched for some decent mp3 players for a while, and even…

Why vibe code anything? VLC would fit the bill. Even quicktime.

It's mostly that I want my own list management, key combinations, navigation, etc. Once the entire UI is my oyster, I realized I don't have to settle for how someone else decided to lay out the menus, etc. 25 years ago I would just learn all the key combos and be set, but 12 major iterations later, few to zero of those UI skills and muscle memory state has survived. So now, I can do my own and no one can take it away from me :)

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by titzer »

al_borland wrote: post #79
titzer wrote: post #66

I still can't believe they killed iTunes. I used to have my entire digital music library in iTunes. Most of that was music I had ripped myself from CD, but I had a handful of albums I bought of iTunes and even some TV shows. When they wholesale abandoned iTunes and deleted from Mac OS in favor of...whatever Apple Music is, I knew I'd never trust them again. I searched for some decent mp3 players for a while, and even…

You can turn off the cloud service in Apple Music and still use it with your local tracks and music downloaded from the iTunes Music Store (which still exists). I did this for most of last year. I had all local music in Apple Music, disabled the cloud stuff, and synced it all to my iPhone by plugging it in with a cable, as if it was an old iPod. It all still worked.

Fool me once.

Re: Stop the Apple Music app from launching

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Post by kqp »

letrix wrote: post #34
riazrizvi wrote: post #28

It's very sad to see Apple using these lowbrow Microsoft tactics. Press ganging your users into launching your other shit product is brand cannibalism.

But why wouldn't pressing the Play button, when no media session is available, not open the music player?

It doesn’t, it opens Apple Music. Apple has a longstanding problem with giving their own apps privileged roles that they don’t expose to competitors. What concessions exist in browsers, maps, and music player are all the result of being forced into it by various lawsuits. Let’s not play games about what’s going on here.
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