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Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by mrexroad »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #145
evan_ wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember one where there were technical issues so Steve just started telling stories about the old days with Woz... impossible to imagine that from ANY tech company today

The curse of money. The more they have the safer they play it.

> Curse of money

Sure, but I think it’s also b/c the target audience for these keynotes has shifted. Given their immense market cap, now there’s an increased fiduciary responsibility to control how presentation lands, such as earnings reports, which comes at the expense of the fun.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by interestpiqued »

praash wrote: post #120
breatheoften wrote: post #72

Man that conversation history navigation for the new Siri app looks super unuseable ... how the hell am I supposed to actually find the conversation I want with the super-dynamic non-ordered 2-column offset-row view thing ...? It looks hard to use ... Also the 'floating semi-window but not a window' thing when using contextual siri in the context of some other app ... sure looks like it won't work with cmd-tab naviga…

I laughed on the groundbreaking emphasis that you can move and resize the chat window because it's a Mac. You're up to something, maybe they really have a broken pseudo-window with basic UI interaction hacked on top.

I think they were just pointing out the difference between that and iOS there

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by microtonal »

llm_nerd wrote: post #101
microtonal wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is more that axing the audience feedback was convenient for them. In the old WWDC keynotes they had to get the audience to 'wow' and applaud. You could very quickly see a feature sink when Apple announced features where the audience went 'meh'. Now they completely control the narrative. But I have only rarely heard anyone who liking the new-style presentations. It all seems fake with the same woolly busine…

>I think it is more that axing the audience feedback was convenient for them. In the old WWDC keynotes they had to get the audience to 'wow' and applaud. I feel like I'm about to tell you there is no Santa or something, but did you really not know that Apple always stuffed audiences with Apple employees? Of the remainder it both through intentional and natural selection leaned towards sycophants. Did you really think…

but did you really not know that Apple always stuffed audiences with Apple employees?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeqPrUmVz-o

(Aside from clearly not an Apple employee, Jobs' way of taking the question is brilliant. Yes I know this was probably not the keynote, but it's a big, risky, filmed WWDC event.)

But yes, HN is overwhelming filled with angry, shakes-fist-at-clouds "it ain't like the olden days!" sorts now. So if you really think this place represents the norm...

Yes, let's resort to personal attacks. There are a lot of things that are better now. Apple Keynotes are not one of them.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by comex »

arpinum wrote: post #180
kettlez wrote: post #127

"Siri AI will not be available in E.U. until we figure out privacy" Funny to hear that after they mentioned how seriously they are taking privacy every 37 seconds.

This is more likely due to the digital markets act that requires them to open their platform to competitors. hence it only being restricted on phone and iPad.

Yes. [1]

[1] https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de...

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by hyperhello »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #145
evan_ wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember one where there were technical issues so Steve just started telling stories about the old days with Woz... impossible to imagine that from ANY tech company today

The curse of money. The more they have the safer they play it.

Someone with no money must survive with short term thinking: hunt and kill a wombat on the savanna or something. From there you work your way away from short term thinking; you might have enough to get through the week already, so the threat of starvation is more long term. Eventually with enough in the bank you have nearly no urgency; you could conceivably mishandle your bonds when they mature in twenty years or something. But with enough money, literally the only risk is short term thinking and immediacy. Bending over to pick up a penny is not going to even be considered.

If my ship ever really comes in and docks at the harbor I’m going to remember to keep my wallet full of cash, so I can stop and get that strawberry ice cream cone without worrying about the long term consequences, which are all I would have left.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by slg »

I think the potentially most impactful singular feature mentioned in all this is being able to conversationally describe Shortcuts for AI to create. That feels like the type of thing that if done right can change how we all use our phones in a way that things like Siri becoming smarter and more conversational likely won't.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by ACCount37 »

Schiendelman wrote: post #73
ACCount37 wrote: post #70

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Not by much. ChatGPT alone is among the most popular apps ever made, and it's available both inside and outside Apple's walled garden. Letting it reach audience in countries where Apple doesn't have much of a foothold. I do wonder if new Siri is any good though. Apple used to be a genuine AI leader, but they totally sleepwalked through LLM revolution, and Siri's response quality was a sad joke for a while now. Did th…

Traffic from Siri to the web is much higher than traffic from OpenAI, generally. It's the default. People installing ChatGPT takes work. And some of that traffic is also coming from Siri today… It won't after this launches.

Because Siri defaults to dumb search much more often. While ChatGPT sucks up the search results and gives its own answer.

Which either terminates the session, or goads the user into asking a follow-up question, improving retention - the user doesn't leave the app either way.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by badc0ffee »

philistine wrote: post #26
chatmasta wrote: post #18

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Liquid Glass is fine for me since I put it in grayscale. I actually like it. I’m just talking about iOS though. Haven’t updated to Liquid (Gl)ass on macOS yet.

People talk about Liquid Glass as if it equal on all fronts. It's absolutely not. Apple knows which way their bread is buttered, that they can't mess up the iPhone. So Liquid Glass is fine on iOS. It's on Mac that it's a garbage fire of ridiculous design decisions. Still the best OS around, but it looks like it was made by idiots.

IMO it's not fine on iOS. It has the same visual busyness as on macOS.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by NetOpWibby »

kettlez wrote: post #127

"Siri AI will not be available in E.U. until we figure out privacy" Funny to hear that after they mentioned how seriously they are taking privacy every 37 seconds.

   Under EU regulators’ extreme interpretation of the DMA, Apple would have to give any virtual assistant direct access to users’ private data — and the ability to directly control other installed applications — as soon as Siri AI is made available in the EU, without the essential protections necessary to keep users and their data safe.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de...

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by nailer »

tapoxi wrote: post #74
antirez wrote: post #36

They try so hard to do a polished presentation that everything is kinda fake and unauthentic. I don't understand how this attitude survived so many years.

I really miss, as a late 90's/early 2000's apple fan, seeing Steve come up and joke with the audience then just show off real products or features and why they're cool. They really sterilized this whole thing after he passed. It's as exciting as a Microsoft keynote now. Just watch a normal presentation like Mac OS X 10.2 or 10.3, it's not iPhone level earth shattering but he made it fun.

I want to celebrate your comment, and the energy around it, and I'm excited for the next generation of replies to build on this momentum.
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