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New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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None of this should be surprising unless you've been just gobbling up whatever you heard through mainstream media. Britain is at a breaking point. There are existential questions to be asked: Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land? Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived the…

The result of the poll in the article seems to be a soft rebuke of the kind of viewpoint you espouse.

> Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived there for thousands of years and their homogeneous identity?

> Why is it okay for one but not the other? Where does this double standard come from ?

Disingenuous question; even people who like Japan and Japanese culture tend to dislike how xenophobic and racist it is.

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That's a dangerous situation for EU: - UK would rejoin EU, - and then, later on, Reform would reach power and undermine EU just like Orban did. So maybe it would be better to refuse UK its reentry into EU...

Trump would be happy if the UK joins the US. With Canada. And Greenland. ;-)

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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None of this should be surprising unless you've been just gobbling up whatever you heard through mainstream media. Britain is at a breaking point. There are existential questions to be asked: Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land? Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived the…

It's not ok in Japan either. And its "homogeneous identity" is mostly a construction, dating back from the Meiji era. And Heian period Japan had a completely different set of values, not less nor more valid than Meiji era Japan, just different. So the identity of a nation is not something eternal nor absolute. Heck, there is even proof Japan has been a mosaic of at least three sets of human populations in prehistoric…

Japan is fairly homogenous with the obvious exception of the Ainu and certain castes. Much more so than Persia/Iran, Russia, Mexico or India. When Japan had a large empire, that was not so much the case, because they ruled over very different peoples.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

#45

That's a dangerous situation for EU: - UK would rejoin EU, - and then, later on, Reform would reach power and undermine EU just like Orban did. So maybe it would be better to refuse UK its reentry into EU...

A successful rejoin referendum would probably help contain Reform.

However such a referendum is basically taboo in the British public discourse.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easy question with an easy answer that threatens a lot of bad people: immigrants are good.

That’s way too simplistic. Not all immigrants are good. Many cost society more than they contribute. The right kind of immigrants are good.

Paint me this picture of an immigrant who costs more than they contribute.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

#47

That's a dangerous situation for EU: - UK would rejoin EU, - and then, later on, Reform would reach power and undermine EU just like Orban did. So maybe it would be better to refuse UK its reentry into EU...

what does 'undermine' means here? It seems that there is a 'correct' way of thinking, and if you don't play along you're an enemy or a Russian asset or whatever. Not very democratic.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

#48

None of this should be surprising unless you've been just gobbling up whatever you heard through mainstream media. Britain is at a breaking point. There are existential questions to be asked: Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land? Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived the…

I don't understand Japanese culture well enough to comment on it, but if it contained the ugliness of xenophobia and white supremacy as they exist in America I'd surely oppose it.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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Tufts University asked an academic what the financial results were for the UK: "The British GDP has been reduced by 6–8%, business investment has been reduced by 12%, and trade volume has been reduced by 15%, compared to what it could have been if the U.K. had remained in the EU." https://now.tufts.edu/2026/06/08/10-years-after-brexit-vote-...

Ah yes, economists are famously capable of accurately projecting a decade in the future.

Re: New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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None of this should be surprising unless you've been just gobbling up whatever you heard through mainstream media. Britain is at a breaking point. There are existential questions to be asked: Is Britain British without British Bourgeoisie that have lived there for thousands of years with new arrivals that have no commmon culture or connection to the land? Can Japan be called Japan without Japanese that have lived the…

Objectively, Japan needs to do something about its culture. It’s literally killing the country. Pretty sure a Japanese person could say the same thing about the U.K.

There would need to be a mental and cultural framework where the old ways are loved, respected and allowed to be mourned.
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