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Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by try-working » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 5:50 PM UTC

llm_nerd wrote: post #57

antirez wrote: post #36

They try so hard to do a polished presentation that everything is kinda fake and unauthentic. I don't understand how this attitude survived so many years.

They communicate the products and product changes quickly, comprehensively and accurately. This was a change that happened at the beginning of COVID, but it turns out most people liked it so it stuck. Many of us don't want to watch people fumble with presentation problems. We don't want the lead in, setup, filler banter, so on. I'll take this sort of "you spend your time perfecting your presentation instead of wastin…

Nobody likes this. How did you come up with the idea to claim that was Apple's reasoning?

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by breatheoften » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 5:51 PM UTC

Man that conversation history navigation for the new Siri app looks super unuseable ... how the hell am I supposed to actually find the conversation I want with the super-dynamic non-ordered 2-column offset-row view thing ...?

It looks hard to use ...

Also the 'floating semi-window but not a window' thing when using contextual siri in the context of some other app ... sure looks like it won't work with cmd-tab navigation ... I really hope is not the case ...

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by Schiendelman » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 5:51 PM UTC

ACCount37 wrote: post #70

earthnail wrote: post #49

The new Siri might bring AI to way more people than OpenAI managed to reach with ChatGPT. I wonder what it means to OpenAI‘s planned IPO. Curious to try the beta to see how the new Siri feels.

Not by much. ChatGPT alone is among the most popular apps ever made, and it's available both inside and outside Apple's walled garden. Letting it reach audience in countries where Apple doesn't have much of a foothold. I do wonder if new Siri is any good though. Apple used to be a genuine AI leader, but they totally sleepwalked through LLM revolution, and Siri's response quality was a sad joke for a while now. Did th…

Traffic from Siri to the web is much higher than traffic from OpenAI, generally. It's the default. People installing ChatGPT takes work. And some of that traffic is also coming from Siri today… It won't after this launches.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by tapoxi » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 5:51 PM UTC

antirez wrote: post #36

They try so hard to do a polished presentation that everything is kinda fake and unauthentic. I don't understand how this attitude survived so many years.

I really miss, as a late 90's/early 2000's apple fan, seeing Steve come up and joke with the audience then just show off real products or features and why they're cool. They really sterilized this whole thing after he passed. It's as exciting as a Microsoft keynote now.

Just watch a normal presentation like Mac OS X 10.2 or 10.3, it's not iPhone level earth shattering but he made it fun.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by try-working » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 5:52 PM UTC

GeekyBear wrote: post #55

WoodenChair wrote: post #25

Apple very rarely admits mistakes. The fact they're rolling back some of the extremeness in Liquid Glass and actively mentioned in the keynote that they very seriously took the user feedback shows just how bad it was, at least initially.

Apple has always tweaked new UI designs over the first few OS releases. They did it with Aqua when MacOS launched and again with the iPhone's original skeuomorphic UI and yet again with the flat redesign of iOS.

Of course. Every company does that. There is no company ever that just freezes after they release something.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by ahartmetz » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 5:52 PM UTC

antirez wrote: post #36

They try so hard to do a polished presentation that everything is kinda fake and unauthentic. I don't understand how this attitude survived so many years.

Even Steve Jobs not long after returning to Apple. His presentations were supposedly the very best shit, but just felt super fake to me.

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by Groxx » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 5:52 PM UTC

slopinthebag wrote: post #44

They can't come up with a better demo than planning the menu for a party???

The irresistible urge to plan parties has infected them all: https://youtu.be/1cX4t5-YpHQ

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by Schiendelman » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 5:52 PM UTC

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #64

Siri wakes up on my phone every time they say "hey siri". I thought it was supposed to be bound to my voice. :/

I was listening to Leviathan Wakes recently - on my car's Audible app (not carplay). Every time they said Ceres, it would wake up Siri...

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by seydor » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 5:52 PM UTC

I often think that Zuck spent so much on metaverse in order to to bait Apple to spend enormously on an experimental product and OS which now they are forced to maintain

Re: Apple WWDC 2026

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Post by bigyabai » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 5:52 PM UTC

earthnail wrote: post #49

The new Siri might bring AI to way more people than OpenAI managed to reach with ChatGPT. I wonder what it means to OpenAI‘s planned IPO. Curious to try the beta to see how the new Siri feels.

> might bring AI to way more people than OpenAI managed to reach with ChatGPT.

I don't even know if this is physically possible. iOS has something like 1.5B users, but ChatGPT reportedly crossed the 1B MAU line in May: https://www.reuters.com/technology/chatgpt-app-hits-1-billio...

By the time Apple ships Apple Intelligence, ChatGPT might have a larger install base than iOS.