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A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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Public parks should not be developed on for the sake of the community. We need wild areas.

We need wild areas in the community ? Why? Let the wild be in the wild.

Because people want/need accessible parks? Texas in particular has relatively very little parkland compared to its size, and its population-to-park ratio is getting increasingly out of whack

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

#122

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We need wild areas in the community ? Why? Let the wild be in the wild.

Because people want/need accessible parks? Texas in particular has relatively very little parkland compared to its size, and its population-to-park ratio is getting increasingly out of whack

I thought parks aren't wild.

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

#123
post #8

I oppose deed restrictions. They last forever and who knows what is correct for future generations. This is a jerk move by the city, but that is a different issue.

Deed restrictions can be modified. There are processes for doing it.

Maybe. Many are forever. If the restriction is a via HOA there is generally a process to modify the HOA agreement. However there are other restrictions and some don't make provisions.

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

#124

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you dont have standing from indirect harm or costs.

What is the legal precedent for this statement? I am not disagreeing, I just would like to know what the law is.

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_(law) the requirements for standing were developed in the Constitution and elaborated in some later cases. To quote from the article, the apt criteria seem to me (2 of the 3):

1. Injury-in-fact: The plaintiff must have suffered or imminently will suffer injury—an invasion of a legally protected interest that is (a) concrete and particularized, and (b) actual or imminent (that is, neither conjectural nor hypothetical; not abstract).[44][45] The injury can be either economic, non-economic, or both.

2. Causation: There must be a causal connection between the injury and the conduct complained of, so that the injury is fairly traceable to the challenged action of the defendant and not the result of the independent action of some third party who is not before the court.[46] ---

The best way to understand why standing was not found is to read the court's ruling. Unfortunately (but not unusually) 404Media has not linked to the judgement. (I will try to find it.) My guess (IANAL) is the injury is hypothetical or conjectural.

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

#125

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Public parks should not be developed on for the sake of the community. We need wild areas.

We need wild areas in the community ? Why? Let the wild be in the wild.

Having natural spaces within communities is vital for mental health. For example, Central Park in NYC is a vital resource for the city allowing people to enjoy nature close to home. Kids need places to go and play. Adults need space to recreate. Pets need space too. Why would you want to have no green spaces within your community?

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

#126
Notwithstanding the merits of this case, I'm against the concept of unlimited time deed restrictions on property. Dead people should not be able to decide what living people can do with land or any other property indefinitely. That's why we have things like the rule against perpetuities, and requirements that charitable foundations spend a certain percentage of their assets every year.

Some of these ideas strongly carry over to the idea of AIs acting as autonomous agents as well.

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

#127
post #46

Wow they had the condition that the land be used as a park baked into the deed when they sold it to the city for $10, the city sold it, and when the family went to court their suit was dismissed. Now their home is worthless because nobody wants to live next to a data center. When are we going to hold local government officials accountable for bullshit like this? Send them to prison.

>"Send them to prison" Dream of my life to see politicians to be personally responsible for fuckups they cause to people.

Citizens used to hold leadership responsible.

It wasn’t even that long ago.

Now, for a certain class, theft and rape are hardly a risk.

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

#128
post #46

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>"Send them to prison" Dream of my life to see politicians to be personally responsible for fuckups they cause to people.

At today's rate in the US, executive immunity is going to extend to all elected or appointed officials in perpetuity.

And just behind that is politicians getting beat down in the streets when people realize the rule of law means nothing anyways and they have no reason to play along.

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need wild areas in the community ? Why? Let the wild be in the wild.

Having natural spaces within communities is vital for mental health. For example, Central Park in NYC is a vital resource for the city allowing people to enjoy nature close to home. Kids need places to go and play. Adults need space to recreate. Pets need space too. Why would you want to have no green spaces within your community?

Central Park isn't wild. I replied to someone who said we need more wild areas. I'm all for parks.
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