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I'm very sorry to hear about this news. I've read through the responses from Proton and don't find it sufficient. I'm now seeking an alternative even though one of my current emails are provided through Proton Mail.
After the 404 piece on them ( https://404media.co/proton-mail-helped-fbi-unmask-anonymous-... ), this is the second stab at the good opinion I had about them :/ Not saying there's a pattern behind those two informations but I'll definitely be watching more closely their news.
but, i dont understand the 404 piece. they are a lawfully operating company, they will answer lawful requests. the same will be true of any and all companies you choose to use for your mail.
in this case, only payment data was handed over. if your payment history is of concern, proton accepts cash and bitcoin
(if anything, this should be a point in favor of proton, seeing as how the only data they were able to hand over was payment data, and not email contents)
Response from Proton > You're right to raise this, and we want to address it directly and provide you important context on how this happened. > Vincent Lapierre's channel should never have been part of our affiliate and sponsorship program, because we intentionally avoid association with channels whose content could distract from our message and divide our community. > Proton operates globally, and while our services…
> You're right to raise this Is this LLM generated?
It's 2026. LLMs are integrated into text editors the same way as spell checkers and grammar checkers. Even if people write things themselves, they likely are using LLMs to review and edit.
This isn't a bot pretending to be a human, this is an official announcement from a company. It's going to be written by a committee and edited by legal and PR and marketing anyway. Who cares if one (or several) of those steps used an LLM.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You're right to raise this Is this LLM generated?
Does it matter if it was? It's 2026. LLMs are integrated into text editors the same way as spell checkers and grammar checkers. Even if people write things themselves, they likely are using LLMs to review and edit. This isn't a bot pretending to be a human, this is an official announcement from a company. It's going to be written by a committee and edited by legal and PR and marketing anyway. Who cares if one (or sev…
I’ve written PR copy solo, and in committee. It’s not rocket surgery. It’s a group of people standing around with a thesaurus. But if you leave AI-isms in, just feels like you whipped it out while coffee was brewing.
Response from Proton > You're right to raise this, and we want to address it directly and provide you important context on how this happened. > Vincent Lapierre's channel should never have been part of our affiliate and sponsorship program, because we intentionally avoid association with channels whose content could distract from our message and divide our community. > Proton operates globally, and while our services…
Does not dodge responsibility, offers a good explanation, agrees that current vetting process is imperfect.
Response from Proton > You're right to raise this, and we want to address it directly and provide you important context on how this happened. > Vincent Lapierre's channel should never have been part of our affiliate and sponsorship program, because we intentionally avoid association with channels whose content could distract from our message and divide our community. > Proton operates globally, and while our services…
> You're right to raise this Is this LLM generated?
If this was AI generated (which I am not convinced of given the full text), it escapes my alarm bells.
I'm very sorry to hear about this news. I've read through the responses from Proton and don't find it sufficient. I'm now seeking an alternative even though one of my current emails are provided through Proton Mail.
> I've read through the responses from Proton and don't find it sufficient. Genuinely curious: What do you find insufficient specifically?
Response from Proton > You're right to raise this, and we want to address it directly and provide you important context on how this happened. > Vincent Lapierre's channel should never have been part of our affiliate and sponsorship program, because we intentionally avoid association with channels whose content could distract from our message and divide our community. > Proton operates globally, and while our services…
> You're right to raise this Is this LLM generated?
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