AI is slowing down

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Post by crescit_eundo » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 3:46 PM UTC

Re: AI is slowing down

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Post by ElFitz » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 4:09 PM UTC

I find it difficult to separate this piece’s tone from its content. The tone puts me off and makes it hard for me to judge it on its merits, despite some of the arguments seeming sound and well supported.

Re: AI is slowing down

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 4:11 PM UTC

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Re: AI is slowing down

#4

Post by metadat » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 4:12 PM UTC

ElFitz wrote: post #2

I find it difficult to separate this piece’s tone from its content. The tone puts me off and makes it hard for me to judge it on its merits, despite some of the arguments seeming sound and well supported.

Agreed. I am open to the possibility of the bubble bursting or whatever, but this piece is like 3,000 words and cites everything as evidence the sky is falling. It's just as bad as the pro-AI grifters, just in the other direction.

Does the truth normally lie somewhere in the middle of it all?

Re: AI is slowing down

#5

Post by bpodgursky » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 4:14 PM UTC

What's the point of arguing with any of this.

It's like someone arguing that cheese isn't real. Yes I can go to the grocery store and take a picture of cheese and show it, but what's the point? They can live in their own world. It doesn't change any of our lives. The world is what it is.

Re: AI is slowing down

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Post by techblueberry » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 4:14 PM UTC

ElFitz wrote: post #2

I find it difficult to separate this piece’s tone from its content. The tone puts me off and makes it hard for me to judge it on its merits, despite some of the arguments seeming sound and well supported.

Given the way tone has been intentionally abused, particularly in this industry, I’ll take a few f bombs and the truth.

Re: AI is slowing down

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Post by swader999 » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 4:15 PM UTC

I think we need to see Open AI's and/or Anthropic's S1's to really know the state of it all.

Re: AI is slowing down

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Post by sumeno » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 4:16 PM UTC

ElFitz wrote: post #2

I find it difficult to separate this piece’s tone from its content. The tone puts me off and makes it hard for me to judge it on its merits, despite some of the arguments seeming sound and well supported.

Ed's posts are peak preaching to the choir, they're usually factually correct but he is really bad at convincing anyone who doesn't already strongly agree with him.

Re: AI is slowing down

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Post by dkobia » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 4:17 PM UTC

Zitron is begging for a collapse at this point. Yes, his macro analysis correctly identifies a massive financial risk but his incessant pessimism completely misses the incredible ground-level utility that many of us on HN celebrate every day through undeniable, massive productivity gains.

At this point I'm trying to believe there's a middle ground where the level of individual capability this unlocks, leads to major discoveries.

Re: AI is slowing down

#10

Post by happycube » Mon, Jun 08, 2026, 4:18 PM UTC

bpodgursky wrote: post #5

What's the point of arguing with any of this. It's like someone arguing that cheese isn't real. Yes I can go to the grocery store and take a picture of cheese and show it, but what's the point? They can live in their own world. It doesn't change any of our lives. The world is what it is.

Lol... in this case, cheese imports from China are much cheaper, just not quite as good.

And for those who are all "but dur CCP get all ur data" you can use things like AWS Bedrock (at least for earlier versions of Deepseek and Qwen for now) and have more familiar people get all your data. Or buy (at obnoxiously inflated prices) your own HW and not send your data to anyone.