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Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by 01100011 »

Aardwolf wrote: post #9
trumpdong wrote: post #6

There is no good reason to have a humanoid robot. None. Dishwashers do best in a dishwasher shape.

I'd love the robot to fill and empty the dishwasher and put the stuff in the correct drawers and cabinets edit: but if the robot could in addition also do dishes in the sink and not need a dishwasher at all, that'd also save up space in the kitchen for something else

I'd rather have two dishwashers and an automated loading/dispensing system built into each one. The dishwasher is already a fairly optimal dish storage device. Using somewhat standardized dish dimensions would make it fairly easy to implement.

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by bluGill »

nkozyra wrote: post #18
usrnm wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dishwashers also cannot work without a human loading and unloading dishes. How do you propose to automate this part?

I think this is a good point, but it ignores the idea that a human form is not the ideal (or even closet to) one to do specific and generalized jobs.

Maybe not human form, but my house is designed for humans. It needs to be able to handle stairs. It needs to handle my doors and halls. It needs to reach upper shelves that are human height (my wife is short and constantly complains about things on a top shelf she cannot reach). I have corners in my house that a large dog can only manage because their spine bends. Human form in many ways is a constraint.

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by bluGill »

01100011 wrote: post #31
Aardwolf wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love the robot to fill and empty the dishwasher and put the stuff in the correct drawers and cabinets edit: but if the robot could in addition also do dishes in the sink and not need a dishwasher at all, that'd also save up space in the kitchen for something else

I'd rather have two dishwashers and an automated loading/dispensing system built into each one. The dishwasher is already a fairly optimal dish storage device. Using somewhat standardized dish dimensions would make it fairly easy to implement.

I wish my kitchen was that big, but even then I think I'd prefer to have my plates stacked. Sure the ones my family uses every meal may as well live in the dishwasher, but I have a few more because once in a while I have guests (or they break) and I don't want those to have the empty space between them the dishwasher needed.

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by htrp »

accrual wrote: post #15
PowerElectronix wrote: post #4

I can't wait to see the day I have to listen to the ad pitch of my robot butler before it goes make me a coffee.

I hope early home robotics will be like a game console launch - a community rush to break through any initial barriers to homebrew. Specific early firmwares will be desirable and a whole community will form around creating exploits and running user software. As old robot units fall out of service and are sold in bulk, the community will pick them up and keep them running.

which means that late stage robotics (or game consoles) become very heavily locked walled gardens as every exploit gets patched.

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by nearlyepic »

mattlondon wrote: post #16
nearlyepic wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would actually be pretty easy to do with regular robotics (well, compared to a humanoid robot anyways). The reason nobody does it is that it takes up a ton of space which is at a huge premium in pretty much every kitchen ever. Also like, loading and unloading the dishwasher is not that hard or time consuming.

> Also like, loading and unloading the dishwasher is not that hard or time consuming. For a me a robot to do the dishwasher would be the number 1 reason for me to buy one. My dishwasher is basically going at least twice sometimes three times a day (household with small kids). If I "miss" a slot to get everything washed before the next meal time then two things happen: - the unwashed things begin to build up so there…

You have a house with small kids and you want a 600 pound autonomous robot walking around? These aren’t funny tech products, they’re industrial equipment.

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by htrp »

01100011 wrote: post #30
trumpdong wrote: post #6

There is no good reason to have a humanoid robot. None. Dishwashers do best in a dishwasher shape.

A couple weeks ago I saw a proud post by a humanoid robot CEO showing off how well his robots could sort objects on an assembly line. It was painful to watch. It's like he's never seen a real industrial sorting system in his life. Vision algos from 30 years ago along with simple mechanics or puffs of air were doing it 100x faster back then. I'm not convinced there is a bubble in AI, but there's definitely one in huma…

This is the figure tweet?

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by mattlondon »

logicchains wrote: post #25
mattlondon wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A robot that cleans my toilet would be nice. Sure I could have a dedicated toilet cleaning robot, and a dedicated dishwasher loading robot, and a dedicated pickup-up-crap-off-the-floor-the-kids-have-left-around-robot ... or just something general purpose? I don't care if it is humanoid or not, but given that our house is built for humans to interact with it seems reasonable that it should fit into that space.

A robot with enough arm strength to properly clean a stubborn toilet wouldn't be safe around kids.

I let my current cleaner be around my kids.

Now the question is is it riskier to have basically a stranger with strong arms in my house near my kids, or a robot with strong arms in my house near my kids?

I feel like a robot has the technical capacity to see behind it and stop (I have many times for example been using the vacuum and moving my arm forwards and backwards and whacked a kid in the face with my elbow on the backswing because they've walked up behind me and I've not known, but a robot with literal eyes and radar in the back of its head would spot that situation and freeze). Similar to self-driving cars: they have lots more eyes than a human has, and can be looking everywhere at once etc.

But do we trust the programming? Do we trust the human cleaning my toilet's "programming" (thoughts, emotions, motives etc)?

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by hilariously »

nerdjon wrote: post #17
trumpdong wrote: post #6

There is no good reason to have a humanoid robot. None. Dishwashers do best in a dishwasher shape.

A dishwasher is the only reason you can think of a humanoid robot? How about a robot to load and unload the dishwasher. The fact is we live in a world built for humans. I have a robot vacuum and for it to be effective I had to setup my home in a certain way, and even then it is not fully effective. People pay for cleaners to come into their home all the time, it shouldn't be hard to think why a humanoid robot would (…

You could build fully humanoid robots that solve every problem generically, or you could solve the sub problems much more efficiently - I don't know why everyone is all in on the hardest problem when in software and hardware we find that the "solve everything" tool basically doesn't work, because solving everything is usually solving nothing very fast.

Re: Nvidia partners with LG robotics to build humanoid robots in South Korea

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Post by gacgacgac »

elil17 wrote: post #29

It is good to see someone finally working on one of these without the stupid legs (I think the legs are stupid because they give your robot the chance to fall over and are not relevant for most environments).

Do you have stairs in your house?
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