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The Butlerian Jihad Has Begun

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Re: The Butlerian Jihad Has Begun

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Post by neutronicus »

xena wrote: post #4

This was hard to read; the writer really did not come from the school of succinctness. If the writer is reading this, please try making an edit where you remove as much of the fluff and rephrase sentences like: > When I read this detail, tucked away near the end of a Guardian article, I winced to see another of my predictions come true; that the ‘Butlerian Jihad’ would soon enter public life not as mere literary meta…

I disagree, I thought it was well-written.

Its' greater sin in my view was attempting to present simple pedantry as politically relevant. The literary criticism I found enjoyable, convincing, and devoid of actionable political insight.

Re: The Butlerian Jihad Has Begun

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Post by neutronicus »

kuerbel wrote: post #48
xena wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few things (written on my phone, forgive the SEO list): * One idea per sentence, more than one tends to make massive run-on sentences that go too far. * Removes irrelevant details. Why does it matter that a Guardian article was the thing that gave the writer the missing link? Essentially the trick is to take your ideas down to the bare minimum required to express them portably and then write that. It makes things m…

>Why does it matter that a Guardian article was the thing that gave the writer the missing link? Why? Isn't that kind of obvious? He says he fears that it will enter public life as a kind of political vocabulary. It was in the Guardian, read by millions, shaping discourse. It already entered public life at that point. It's relevant.

He's also implying that the original Guardian article missed the significance of the detail - indeed, this alleged inattention from mainstream media sources is part of the justification for writing the piece at all.

Re: The Butlerian Jihad Has Begun

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Post by lesostep »

xena wrote: post #26
beepbooptheory wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you argue yours is better?

A few things (written on my phone, forgive the SEO list): * One idea per sentence, more than one tends to make massive run-on sentences that go too far. * Removes irrelevant details. Why does it matter that a Guardian article was the thing that gave the writer the missing link? Essentially the trick is to take your ideas down to the bare minimum required to express them portably and then write that. It makes things m…

>> Why does it matter that a Guardian article was the thing that gave the writer the missing link

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the name of the magazine — and the fact that it is a magazine — matters very much when we are talking about something that is "entering public life".

If the author had read this little tidbit on a "daily dune fan blogpost", he wouldn't have any ground to claim that butlerian jihad is a part of relevant political vocabulary.

Re: The Butlerian Jihad Has Begun

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Post by dist-epoch »

nick__m wrote: post #53
pietervdvn wrote: post #8

Belgian action group "Code Rood" (Code Red) is planning to occupy a data centre next week... https://code-rouge.be/

I predict that they will be as effective as Extinction Rebellion : lot's of noise, some protesters arrested and no results.

Extinction Rebellion did not have popular support, in fact they were very annoying to the general public, by blocking roads and trains.

Nobody will shed a tear for a blocked data center.

Re: The Butlerian Jihad Has Begun

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Post by dist-epoch »

trollbridge wrote: post #17
pietervdvn wrote: post #8

Belgian action group "Code Rood" (Code Red) is planning to occupy a data centre next week... https://code-rouge.be/

Good luck. It's hard enough to get into a data centre when you're authorised to be there.

You just do the good old medieval siege - nothing gets in, nothing gets out.
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