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Re: The Cypherpunk Library

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The crypto-oriented 4Seas coworking in Chiang Mai set up a very nice exhibit to cypherpunks as laid against the history of cryptography. I took pictures as the exhibit is supposed to have been taken down by now:

https://www.google.com/maps/contrib/113373898014727437041/pl...

I have photos of the individual exhibit pieces too if anyone's interested.

Re: The Cypherpunk Library

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post #38

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I have no understanding of your viewpoint. I wish I did, it sounds interesting. I do like a Crafting Interpreters or Mythical Man Month... But I don't understand how those could not only be held to the same level as The Hobbit, but that you seem incapable of even reading Animal Farm. Do you enjoy any fictional media? TV, movies, plays, interactive murder mystery dinners, tabletop games (d&d, etc)?

> Do you enjoy any fictional media? TV, movies, plays, interactive murder mystery dinners, tabletop games (d&d, etc)? Nope, I truly live under a rock when it comes to those. I've been wanting to watch the big ones (Hobbit, LotR, ...), but – and I say this with no disdain: I simply cannot get myself to consume hours upon hours of somebody else's fantasy – when I could instead be shaping my own reality .

How about short jokes, or Unix fortune files?

Re: The Cypherpunk Library

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Side note: I love literature, but I can not for the life of me understand how anyone can consider non-fiction enjoyable to read. Informative, perhaps interesting, yes, but enjoyable? Heck no. Take me as far away from reality as possible. Though, of course, to each their own.

Interesting– Conversely, that is exactly how I feel about reading fiction . To me, how can you possibly enjoy reading something some other person simply ... made up? Like an elaborate lie? Contrarily, non-fiction tells it how it happened within the very reality I myself live in , subject to the same laws of nature and real psychology , and therefore, and only therefore, able to teach me something about real life on t…

>Contrarily, non-fiction tells it how it happened within the very reality I myself live in, subject to the same laws of nature and real psychology, and therefore, and only therefore, able to teach me something about real life on this earth.

This is me trying to pick up most bullshit written from humanities or arts; a 99% of it it's carefully crafted nonsense for ahem mainly emotionaly driven women and artsy people with very subjective opinions instead of accepting the reality as is.

Elaborated jokes OTOH can be trully clever and a good source of laughs and fun.

Also, Discworld from Pratchett, as they have obvious magical analogies to real life devices and scientific procedures.

Re: The Cypherpunk Library

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This is the thing I don't understand about (a superficial interpretation of) anarchists; while governments are often not ideal, a lack of one wouldn't be better. And trusting people to self-organize is idealistic, but in practice it'd mean we go back to tribalism and "might makes right".

The idea is it wouldn’t work on trust, each element would be bounded by forces other than a single structure; getting to the state in which self-regulation is possible is the difficult, or maybe impossible, part. When in the regulated state, power grabs wouldn’t work.

The way they would self-regulate (self-organize) is into tribes/gangs. And that works (for some value of "works") until one tribe/gang becomes too powerful.

Re: The Cypherpunk Library

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It's the anti-establishment impulse taken to extremes. Anarchism is one of the niche destinations of that mindset. Another, ironically, is full blown communism. What's sort of funny, is how all these seemingly polar-opposite anti-establishment flavors are actually far closer to each other than they are to mainstream political left or right. The anti-establishment part ends up overriding everything else That's how you…

How is it ironic? Anarchists were a big part of the First International and left-anarchists can usually be considered to be socialists. They are not polar opposites, rather communism and (left-)anarchism are the statist and republican/federalist (loosely authoritarian and libertarian) expressions of the same underlying ideology of human equality.

> expressions of the same underlying ideology of human equality

I have no clue how any equality minded person could vote republicans or trump.

I get that you want to point out the overlap of the ideologies, but I don't see how they are remotely attributable to the current political landscape. (Strictly in the equality matter)

Re: The Cypherpunk Library

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no understanding of your viewpoint. I wish I did, it sounds interesting. I do like a Crafting Interpreters or Mythical Man Month... But I don't understand how those could not only be held to the same level as The Hobbit, but that you seem incapable of even reading Animal Farm. Do you enjoy any fictional media? TV, movies, plays, interactive murder mystery dinners, tabletop games (d&d, etc)?

> Do you enjoy any fictional media? TV, movies, plays, interactive murder mystery dinners, tabletop games (d&d, etc)? Nope, I truly live under a rock when it comes to those. I've been wanting to watch the big ones (Hobbit, LotR, ...), but – and I say this with no disdain: I simply cannot get myself to consume hours upon hours of somebody else's fantasy – when I could instead be shaping my own reality .

"All the world's a stage,And all the men and women merely players;They have their exits and their entrances,And one man in his time plays many parts,His acts being seven ages."

— William Shakespeare, Fantasy Author

Re: The Cypherpunk Library

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it ironic? Anarchists were a big part of the First International and left-anarchists can usually be considered to be socialists. They are not polar opposites, rather communism and (left-)anarchism are the statist and republican/federalist (loosely authoritarian and libertarian) expressions of the same underlying ideology of human equality.

> expressions of the same underlying ideology of human equality I have no clue how any equality minded person could vote republicans or trump. I get that you want to point out the overlap of the ideologies, but I don't see how they are remotely attributable to the current political landscape. (Strictly in the equality matter)

I didn't mention anything about the current political landscape? I did write republican/federalist, but republican is meant in the dictionary sense, not the US political party.

Trump is not a socialist or an anarchist of any kind (I have a hard time believing he has any political ideology or even ideas about governance at all), and neither are the vast majority of the political establishment.

Re: The Cypherpunk Library

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Everything on the Internet is public domain, up for grabs In the past you could argue about legal stuff but now the LLM training companies have proven that beyond all doubt, it is not only possible but even legal to use any Internet material as you see fit.

I really hope this is sarcasm.

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Re: The Cypherpunk Library

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post #37

If anyone is curious, like me, what Cypherpunk means: "A cypherpunk is one who advocates the widespread use of strong cryptography and privacy-enhancing technologies as a means of effecting social and political change."[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk

Funnily, this small library features works outside of it's domain, including a manifesto from PKK terrorist organization leader..

https://www.cypherpunkbooks.com/book/definition-of-democrati...

The book in question. What was the intent or purpose of coming at this sideways?

Re: The Cypherpunk Library

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> expressions of the same underlying ideology of human equality I have no clue how any equality minded person could vote republicans or trump. I get that you want to point out the overlap of the ideologies, but I don't see how they are remotely attributable to the current political landscape. (Strictly in the equality matter)

I didn't mention anything about the current political landscape? I did write republican/federalist, but republican is meant in the dictionary sense, not the US political party. Trump is not a socialist or an anarchist of any kind (I have a hard time believing he has any political ideology or even ideas about governance at all), and neither are the vast majority of the political establishment.

Well the previous commenter mentioned the trump/sanders crossvoting, I guess you just ignored that to focus in the ideologies.

Maybe it just reads weird or I read it weird, to read trump at some point and someone else ending the sentence with equality.

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