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LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

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Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

#841
I really think that this blog is part of the IPO story from Anthropic or OpenAI.

Because the reality is: A generalist can simply not guide the LLMs through the system nor can he/she verify the output. LLMs are force-multipliers and if there is nothing to multiply, it won't work.

As long we don't have AGI, humans will guide AI and if we get AGI, that's not something to even think of anymore. Software engineering was always about automation, if you want to be an artist, you better look for something else.

Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

#842

I really think that this blog is part of the IPO story from Anthropic or OpenAI. Because the reality is: A generalist can simply not guide the LLMs through the system nor can he/she verify the output. LLMs are force-multipliers and if there is nothing to multiply, it won't work. As long we don't have AGI, humans will guide AI and if we get AGI, that's not something to even think of anymore. Software engineering was a…

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Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

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post #333

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> Suno, the AI Music thing. I don't know if y'all have tried it, but it now produces really good stuff I played with it a bit, and no, it doesn't! And I am talking as someone with limited music culture, musicians are likely to be even more critical. For the first few tries, it sounds impressive and the tunes are catchy. It used to sound wrong in the background but they mostly (but not completely) fixed that. However,…

In 2024 some people were saying, illustrators will be fine, the models can't even get the number of fingers right! They were wrong.

A big threat for illustrators is not LLMs per se but slop acceptance. We've seen the same with machine translation - it was (and to some extent still is) worse than human translation but people accepted it because it's free. I recently seen and ad on a street which caught my attention - it was a photorealistic image of a taking off plane. It looked off and when I looked at details it's become clear it's AI generated - the 1st giveaway - stationary turbines on a flying plane, an angle relative to the runway is wrong, small details, especially in the background are off. Someone prompted LLM, seen the result and decided it's OK to print this advert. IMHO they would be better off with buying a stock image.

Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

#846

I see many comments saying, "AI can't do X with 80-100% accuracy; therefore our professions are in good hands." While I don't want to sound overly pessimistic, the models are improving at a rapid rate. If asked ~3 years ago where the state of the models are today, it would sound like sci-fi if answered, "the models are creating full MVP apps in ~30 minutes with one prompt". The hurdles the models are facing now, like…

Nothing corroborated this. Performance on benchmarks has practically leveled off. The big gains have come from architecture (have a secondary LLM review output) or searching the internet. Also prices are going up. Everything points to the likelihood that we're at the top of the curve.

Most benchmarks can be trained for as well, so they are over-representative of model's engineering skills. The entire nature of a benchmark is collapsing some qualitative work (software engineering task, architecture choice, code quality) into a quantitative score which can be optimized for.

Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

#847
"they can do that because there's plenty of articles on the web on how that shit works along with all the technical documentation, and we have blog posts explaining how to apply the technical tools to the domain."

Does this imply the future of LLMs is either that they acquire reasoning, or that they (or even engineering itself?) reach a plateau if humans are no longer writing about how to do things because the humans are using AI?

Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

#848

I see many comments saying, "AI can't do X with 80-100% accuracy; therefore our professions are in good hands." While I don't want to sound overly pessimistic, the models are improving at a rapid rate. If asked ~3 years ago where the state of the models are today, it would sound like sci-fi if answered, "the models are creating full MVP apps in ~30 minutes with one prompt". The hurdles the models are facing now, like…

Nothing corroborated this. Performance on benchmarks has practically leveled off. The big gains have come from architecture (have a secondary LLM review output) or searching the internet. Also prices are going up. Everything points to the likelihood that we're at the top of the curve.

> Performance on benchmarks has practically leveled off

Ehm, no? DeepSWE[1] for example shows that new models like gpt-5.5 continue to show big improvements compared to older models.

> Also prices are going up.

Prices for frontier intelligence have gone up, but prices for the same level of intelligence have gone way down (what you can get for pennies now was SOTA just a couple of years ago). The pareto frontier is still expanding.

[1] https://deepswe.datacurve.ai/

Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

#849
post #623

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I have worked on highly regulated areas in finance (risk). Compliance is a highly creative art, often requiring lots of out-of-the-box thinking and non-obvious solutions. The people I found worst at this were IT. They tend to over-interpret regulation, and super-restrict beyond what is needed for actual de-facto compliance. My guess is the model makes the same mistakes as the programmers: taking 'rules' literally, un…

> he people I found worst at this were IT. My experience as IT in modern banks was the opposite. The legal department were absolute assholes when it came to software features. And I'm talking absolutely 100% ok features, like paying your bills from the banking application. The least fun, trigger happy, cover their buts people I've ever seen. Like all they could ever say was NO. I guess they were heavily incentivized…

I remember working with a corporate customer whose in house architecture team was so difficult to work with that I joked that they could be replaced by a rule in their email system that simply replied "No" as the message if I ever emailed them.

Re: LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do

#850

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Posting this under a burner so I don't dox myself: I work in FinTech on a regulated product. We have access to Mythos. Mythos identified part of our codebase that it confidently asserted was not complaint with a particular regulation and we were at grave risk by allowing it to operate the way it was. Except this was not the case, it had of course hallucinated what the regulation actually required (I know this because…

The dynamic of agent codes human reviews does seem like the only sane one for the foreseeable future. Even Anthropic themselves still fall back to this. The problem is that sucks, even if all software engineers keep their jobs and salaries, the floor is still pulled out from under us. Imagine if a surgeons job was to supervise robot surgeons from a remote computer, or a woodworker just signs off on work before the ma…

> but the soul & humanity of their skill is gone.

If robots make life saving surgery cheaper so that many people can afford it, isnt that a good thing?

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