Somebody tell OP that we've been distilling vodka for centuries.
Dopamine Fracking
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#42This has been happening in the real world for far longer. It's basically the experience of many modern cities, or even worse suburbs. Starbucks / Chipotle / Orange Theory / Target / Generic Brewery / Lime Scooter / Waymo / Subscribe N Save So much of modern life has been comodified to optimize for things that aren't necessarily what's inline with the users interests and certainly don't do anything for cultural robust…
I don’t know if I’d club fast food restaurants into the dopamine factory category. I see it as more of a necessity as I don’t think I can go hunt or gather food during my lunch break at the office.
There’s a lot of possibility in between hunting and eating fast food. Buy some healthy food at the grocery store and pack a lunch to bring with you.
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#43> Written by a human.
That for some reason uses em dashes and writes in a voice that at times I find hard to distinguish from AI.
Man, I'm tired. Are people just lying? Am I just seeing things? Some mystery third option? Is it meta commentary?
Everything is poisoned.
I suppose it feels incorrect regardless of actual AI use, because it's still the LinkedIn thought leader template with relevant current issue.
Which is interesting, because it is so meta.
It has it all. It has the SpongeBob meme for relatability, it has the vague call to action (mindfulness, lmao) at the end. Ugh. Man.
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#44I would drop the "[do x] instead of listening to me (an idiot) talk about [y]" concept from your brain and all future writing. :)
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#45Sin-object fetishization is the act of finding something apparently concrete to blame on what is judged to be sinful behavior. This apparently Christian-origin practice is now secularized, and needs to sound scientific and objective. And since everything that we experience is mediated through the brain or neurons (gut brain) a natural candidate is “dopamine”.
The sin here is hedonic pleasure seeking. You know, in plain words, not misleadingly scientific ones which 99.5% of the word-wielders have no qualifications to meaningfully discuss.
Without this baggage, we can more easily ask why we seek pleasure to an unhealthy degree.
- Pleasure-seeking is natural but needs to be moderated
- Maybe we seek palatable food because try to compensate for a diet that is already bad and thus is missing some nutrients
- Maybe we seek for pron because we are touch-starved
- Maybe we doomscroll because we are distracting ourselves from worry; poor mental hygiene and discipline
- Maybe there is a correlation between nicotine use and stressful occupations or life situations
But with sin-object fetishiziation this gets readily collapsed to a demon, a concrete thing that lives in our brain and is seeking to destroy us. Just say no to dopamine.
This is a matter of living. Thus science—objective, widely agreed upon reality—is very much a secondary concern to most people who care about excessive pleasure seeking. (Not that this is scientific. Just borrowing and appropriation.) Our subjective experience is more important. With subjective words and reflections we can get somewhere. Even study how we ourselves act: when do we pleasure seek, when are we satisfied without it, etc.
But sin-object fetishization is more about the sin than the cure.
> I don't have any solutions.
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#46This has been happening in the real world for far longer. It's basically the experience of many modern cities, or even worse suburbs. Starbucks / Chipotle / Orange Theory / Target / Generic Brewery / Lime Scooter / Waymo / Subscribe N Save So much of modern life has been comodified to optimize for things that aren't necessarily what's inline with the users interests and certainly don't do anything for cultural robust…
Eh, I don't use Lime Scooters or Waymo for the dopamine, I use them to get to where I need to go.
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#48Anxiety over commodification is very, very old, and tends to miss the upsides of commercial society. Intellectuals, by our nature, focus on problems -- often to the point of creating problems where (perhaps) there were none before. Happily "dopamine fracking" will probably not metamorphose into another menacing sounding anti-commercial phrase. There are enough already.
If you are sympathetic, or even curious, about the advantages of commercial society Deirdre Mccloskey's bourgeoise trilogy is an excellent place to begin.
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#49> The Strawberry Example
Is this really the best example the author could come up with? If you want fresh strawberries, you can just go to a supermarket and buy them. In many places you can get a few pounds per for less than the money you earn in one hour. It's pretty much a heaven compared to pre-industrial days.
But I guess the analogy of fracking is pretty spot on, just in a way the author didn't realize -- the cons are often exaggerated.
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#50> The Strawberry Example Is this really the best example the author could come up with? If you want fresh strawberries, you can just go to a supermarket and buy them. In many places you can get a few pounds per for less than the money you earn in one hour . It's pretty much a heaven compared to pre-industrial days. But I guess the analogy of fracking is pretty spot on, just in a way the author didn't realize -- the c…
They also grow extremely well in many climates across the northern US and are good at self-perpetuation. They're a fantastic balcony plant since their crawlers will hang down and offer fruit to a downstairs neighbor.