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I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by jen729w »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #106
kubb wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not that I want them to suffer, it’s that them being rewarded incentivizes suboptimal behavior and outcomes. Markets don’t work anymore. Which results in even more suffering.

> them being rewarded incentivizes suboptimal behavior and outcomes What if they're choosing correctly? Like, I've been pretty consistently critical of crypto. Yet I'm glad my index funds have to buy Coinbase.

> Yet I'm glad my index funds have to buy Coinbase.

Curious why? Its chart is a nightmare – up and down like a yo-yo. Not something I'd want to have to depend on.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by nixpulvis »

Hey Edwin. Glad to see your post pop up. I remember doing a hackathon with you back in like 2012/2013.

I think the ability to get to a working prototype faster is very empowering, even if some will be tempted to ship these incomplete ideas. Design and UX needs benefits greatly from being able to play with it, and experience the actual flows beyond just a storyboard and wireframes.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by solenoid0937 »

ehmorris wrote: post #163
vasco wrote: post #97

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Taking it slow with paper and interviews works if you think about what you're doing. The other option now is shut down brain and press the slot machine lever one more time. One of the designs has got to be good soon.

(I’m the author) making ideas legible and testing them with users is part of the design process regardless of tooling. You can summarize this article as “I find LLMs more effective at making ideas legible vs figma - for the work I’m doing at Jane Street”. This has helped me iterate and it helps me test with users and get better feedback from them. I’m not just prompting “make no design mistakes” over and over.

No matter how nuanced your your workflow is, there are some people on HN that just hate AI and will see it as "slot machine go brr" no matter what you say. It is generally pointless to engage with such people.

Great article, by the way.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by solenoid0937 »

raincole wrote: post #18
osti wrote: post #8

I think Jane Street is an Anthropic investor, so take it fwiw.

Even if they're not, I'm not sure if we should care a quantitative trading firm's opinions on frontend design...

Jane St's hiring bar is higher than 99% of the tech industry, maybe even 99.5-99.9%. Blog posts from companies like this are interesting in the same way that papers from well respected journals are interesting.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by testdelacc1 »

Nition wrote: post #250
sfjailbird wrote: post #154

We already have the business side come with requirements in the form of 'solutions' that they have thought up, which more often than not are Rube Golberg-esque contraptions, that you have to conversationally reverse engineer to arrive at the actual requirements. In the future they will come with their 'ready' solution, already 'working' and be even less receptive to look at design and architecture holistically. Just…

> In the future they will come with their 'ready' solution, already 'working' and be even less receptive This has already been common in the audio engineering world for some time, as home demos of music approach professional quality. As you forsee here, people get used to what they have and become even less inclined to accept changes in a new professional mix.

There was this video which showed film directors doing something similar. They film their scene with “filler” music previously used in some other film. Then they hand the scene to the music director and ask a score for it, which forces the director to make something very similar to the filler music. It then makes all film music sound similar.

This was only possible due to the “productivity boost” of digital editing pipelines, which allowed directors to edit immediately after filming.

https://youtu.be/7vfqkvwW2fs from 5:50 on but the whole video is a masterpiece.

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Post by bitvvip »

deepfriedchokes wrote: post #225
wartywhoa23 wrote: post #14

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The whole HN is one huge AI ad now.

It’s some Sun Tzu shit. Create a sense of inevitability such that they win the war for financial capital without any fighting, then hope the tech catches up before Capitalists realize they’ve been fleeced. The Dotcom bubble was the same scam.

Do you still know the Art of War by Sun Tzu?

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by make3 »

gwerbin wrote: post #245
make3 wrote: post #233

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they don't know that it'll break, that's the problem of course

I think the point is that those are the clients you don't want, so you encourage them to select themselves out of working with you. The fact that it might be bad for their own business is not relevant to you as a consultant.

I think it's normal for non-technical people to have no idea of how things work and of what to expect. It's our responsibility to communicate. And, within reason, theirs to listen.

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Post by dcre »

conradfr wrote: post #29

> Claude gave me free, unlimited iteration, unbothered when I changed my mind for the 50th time or asked for a small tweak Do you not pay for Claude?

Jane Street’s profit per employee (profit, not revenue) in 2025 was high single-digit millions per employee.

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Post by trinsic2 »

> There’s also a fear I have that designing with Claude keeps me out of a fluid, creative mindset and stuck in an iterative one, constrained to the outcomes I think Claude can produce. That’s fine for mature tools, where changes are iterative, but might mean I miss ideas when working on something new

I some times notice this. the LLM cant see past the interation so I have to think outside the box and say, what if we look at it from this perspective, and suddenly a new way of designing it comes into existance. Somes times I have to create a flow chart to get the LLM to see past its own progression steps.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by Nicci-K26 »

slyzmud wrote: post #183
gwerbin wrote: post #162

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I have seen this already. Vibecoded top to bottom. The downside is that the business people don't understand why you can't just put their app in production as is. And then there's a lot of pressure to make it happen quickly "because we can use AI to move fast". This is going to come down to healthy organization dynamics, and hopefully represents a learning opportunity for leadership. The upside is that the idea has a…

I've working on a small side project with a non technical friend for a couple months. It's really small but we are selling it to some clients. The other day my friend discovered lovable and vibe coded an entire app and he started feeling like I was scamming him. Why would I take weeks or months in building our app if he could do it on hours? He might be stubborn but ended up blindly believing me, but I couldn't find…

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