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Anthropic, please ship an official Claude Desktop for Linux

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Re: Anthropic, please ship an official Claude Desktop for Linux

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Post by physicsguy »

jlokier wrote: post #145
eptcyka wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even for those who do this right, some things change under your feet because OSS maintainers of kernel feature A want to stop supporting V1 of A when V2 has been out for a decade. But the features missing in V2 are supposed to be provided by userspace B - and they are yet to tackle the functionality altogether. So now your app will just have to regress in features. It is very easy to ship OSS code as a maintainer of…

Thanks to the Linux kernel's extremely high backward compatibility, and virtually all the libraries being open source, you can ship old or frozen versions of libraries with your application if you have to. You can defensively set shipped binaries as fallbacks in the event the application is running on a newer system that dropped critical functionality, while using the distro version if that's more up to date and stil…

> You can defensively set shipped binaries as fallbacks in the event the application is running on a newer system that dropped critical functionality

Not if they're GPL licensed you can't. And that's a headache most commercial people do not want at all when trying to write software that's often for a marginal part of their audience anyway.

Re: Anthropic, please ship an official Claude Desktop for Linux

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Post by esseph »

Aurornis wrote: post #64
aaddrick wrote: post #26

Hey! I manage the unofficial build at https://github.com/aaddrick/claude-desktop-debian Debian is in the name, but scope has grown to all backends, compositors, etc. The main reason must companies don't publish Linux electron apps is fragmentation. If you're doing anything more than rendering a webpage as an app, it starts to get complicated. I've got a bank of VM's setup for testing, and I still need it up.

> The main reason must companies don't publish Linux electron apps is fragmentation. If you're doing anything more than rendering a webpage as an app, it starts to get complicated. Can confirm. At a past company we worked hard to release a Linux desktop client for our customers who wanted it, even though the number was small. It turns into compatibility hell very fast. You think you can target a couple recent Ubuntu…

Just ship a flatpak?

Re: Anthropic, please ship an official Claude Desktop for Linux

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Post by antonvs »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #135
bigyabai wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How do I bring your app to the foreground if I can't see an icon anywhere? On GNOME? Alt-tab, super overview, or click the dock icon. It's literally not any more complex than multitasking on an iPad.

[flagged]

You might be happier with a consumer OS.

Re: Anthropic, please ship an official Claude Desktop for Linux

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Post by endorphine »

jeremyjh wrote: post #33

If you feel that strongly about it, why not write the issue description yourself?

Really.. I was scrolling to find a comment complaining for this slop GH issue, which should be 10% of the size of what it is.

Surprised me it took so much scrolling to get to this.

Like, who reads all that crap?

Re: Anthropic, please ship an official Claude Desktop for Linux

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Post by e12e »

fragmede wrote: post #137
neilv wrote: post #133

OK, just please be careful how you frame what you're asking for. For software development use of Claude, I'd be happy if the `claude` CLI executable does everything I need, within the Linux KVM VM sandboxes I create for the work, without a desktop client. The cleaner and more trustworthy, the better. Also, for random interactive use of Claude for asking questions, I use it from my host desktop, sandboxed within the W…

The terribleness of VNC (vs RDP) is what gets you. A GUI client in that VM sucks to access. If it didn't, a GUI client wouldn't be easily rejectable.

So use RDP?

https://www.xrdp.org/

(Or x forwarding over ssh, or waypipie if you only need to access a gui application, not a desktop).

Re: Anthropic, please ship an official Claude Desktop for Linux

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Post by kskdkwjdkwkkds »

tasuki wrote: post #61
aaddrick wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still mess it up* Swipe keyboards on mobile are awful, but I can't break that habit.

We have basically achieved AGI, but typing on mobile is still an unsolved problem. GBoard's dictionaries for Czech and Polish are still missing many usual declensions...

> We have basically achieved AGI

We haven’t.

Re: Anthropic, please ship an official Claude Desktop for Linux

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Post by jorvi »

WD-42 wrote: post #108
aaddrick wrote: post #87

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Yeah. I just dropped another repackaging repo for Wispr Flow. https://github.com/wispr-flow-linux/wispr-flow-linux A lot of that is keyboard shortcuts for push-to-talk. Easy right? X11 is mostly fine, but the world is moving into Wayland. Wayland doesn't have shortcuts native and relies on xdg-desktop-portal, which in turn relies on each backend to implement it's own version. COSMIC from the Pop!OS team's xdg-desktop…

A lot of us are happy gnome doesn’t support tray icons. We are sick of devs thinking their app is so important it needs a visual presence at all times. If I need your app I’ll bring it to the foreground, we have the technology. Global shortcuts definitely a pain point with Wayland but the portals are making progress.

> A lot of us are happy gnome doesn’t support tray icons.

A lot of us = very few people in total, apparently.

There's a reason Dash to Dock and AppIndicator are packaged by default on most Gnome distros and overwhelmingly installed on those that don't have it. Even Gnome itself has started development on a native systray, although in classic Gnome NIH fashion they either want to implement a new standard or are were even considering using the deprecated snixembed standard instead of using what 99% of Linux does :+)

(Technically they want it for pretty good reasons, but good luck forcing all Linux applications to implement yet another standard, especially the commercial applications)

Re: Anthropic, please ship an official Claude Desktop for Linux

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Post by kskdkwjdkwkkds »

scrollop wrote: post #127
Retr0id wrote: post #5

If only Anthropic had some kind of automated tool that was good at porting software

Imagine if cutting edge AI companies could decide to using their world best AI to 1) Develop software for linux 2) Provide decent support

It’s almost as if this whole productivity increase promised by AI is just marketing spiel, huh? Crazy.
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