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I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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I can use a local model to build a restaurant website. The model generates code fast enough that even my 10 year old server can generate all the code needed in about an hour. It will use about 50 cents of electricity and be better than 90% of the restaurant websites out there.

I’m curious what you’re using for that (if you’re inclined to share).

I saw that blog post about running local models on a Xeon based server so I benchmarked a bunch of local models on it. The server is dual Xeons with 256 GB of DDR4 and I found it capable of running some things locally. It's slow but still faster than coding things manually. Also that was just an example. Even my 6 year old 6900XT is faster.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Show it. Pick a missed edge case or breaking point in his app and demonstrate the pain the customer is going to encounter. You don't have to live in the realm of hypotheticals. He has given you a concrete, but flawed, implementation that offers proof of your message.

I did it and he "fixed" it with AI, making him even more convinced of it. I'm pretty sure something else must have broken but didn't see it immediately. I guess eventually it will fall from its own weight but I'm surprised how far he was able to get.

You are convincing me of it too. It is clear that your friend still needs your system thinking to point out edge cases and whatnot, but if you applied that by spending a couple of days adding a test suite to provide the missing validation, it seems like together you could have a pretty robust product built in less than a week. What justifies a couple of months?

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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> workflow improvements that would have taken days or weeks of engineering

It's a nice article and good point but I feel "design" in the title is misleading - the example given has an extremely reduced visual or spatial scope (something models are still not good at). The post is more about rapid prototyping.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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I worry about Figma stock, I know some who bought during the IPO who are now underwater. Figma launched their own design agent but not sure how well that's doing.

Their efforts at AI have been really sad to see. They tried making an Everything Bagel and seem to have hit a wall, hard. It's a shame because if they'd taken an iterative approach of automating various parts of a normal Figma workflow to speed things up for users, that would have helped them discover where the value was; lots of little ideas, failing fast, testing and updating. Maybe they just got too big and lost t…

QQ is your insight from first-hand experience using it in an enterprise production environment? If not, then how did you get to this realization?

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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post #170

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Thanks, but I don't need to click, that to know what is inside. And to be honest, a LLM could have give me the same response. (But I made no claims of AGI btw.)

> And to be honest, a LLM could have give me the same response. It could, or it could've hallucinated something :) But then again, I could too, if I smoked enough or fell on my head. Plus it would've produced more CO2 than I did, hopefully :)

> if I smoked enough or fell on my head.

Did it hurt, you know, when you fell?

The problem here is you're complaining about cult members, then acting like one of the anthrocentric cult members yourself. I agree that we should build a human centered world, but ignoring our many faults won't get us anywhere.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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I honestly much prefer this to the old way where the only mode of communication was speech or text. I now often understand a lot more holistically what the person coming with their product wants with just a demo + a conversation. Of course you need the person making that vibe product to understand it's just a mockup of their idea and that it'll change. But I would argue this has always been a necessary quality for a…

thats really sad that only way you can understand something is with pictures and demos. like a little toddler. when they already come up with a working model it doesnt really leave any room for abstract thought because now you are in concerte world . They see you as a machine that turns mocks into impls ( maybe you youself see yourself like that). its ok if you see yourself as a code monkey monkey doing menial job of…

A (good) picture is worth 1024 words.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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We are doing this on my team (I am the frontend engineer) and honestly I really miss the old way of doing things. Written specifications are being reduced in favor of these working prototypes, and now there’s this extra cognitive burden of reading the code and trying to determine what were the intended changes, and what’s the slop that needs to be tossed aside. We also have to figure out, should we take over this gen…

The code is not meant to be read anymore. That's the mistake. Do you look at generated assembly that comes out of your compiler? You don't. So why are you looking at this code? We have pushed up the abstraction layer.

I catch so much shit when I read the code. I’ll take this into consideration when I’m no longer catching poorly made slop all the time.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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The benefit here is designers learning to code. It was always weird to me that designers were shaping software without knowing how it was built. I'm a designer btw. However, designing in code is technology-first. One could argue that the purpose of design - to shape the artifacts for human purpose - is better done NOT starting with the strict rules of code. Pen and paper is still hard to beat, not for anything that l…

> The benefit here is designers learning to code. Designers aren't learning to code. My wife works as a product manager in a FAANG and her team has leaned extremely heavily in using AI to vibe-code some pieces of software that they would have done on Word, Excel or similar otherwise. They're not learning to code, they don't even look at the code a single second.

Generalising sure feels good doesn’t it?

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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I use claude design too. It has been suggested to me by some very respected and experienced designers which now prototype almost exclusively in claude and then when happy refine in figma. By the way, you can always tune your prompts to not be generic, if you ask for generic UIs without detailed styling prompts you will get generic designs.

But then how do they get it back out from Figma and make it live?

It would seem a circuitous process and I'd suggest another workflow, but Claude Design can ingest Figma files.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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post #129

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Have you actually looked into the allegations and the response from Jane Street? By your logic companies can commit any fraud in India because if they get caught you can just say: hey cant trust the country.

I think you tried to narrow down my general statement. What I'm saying is: not all countries and their regulatory bodies are equal. India is a pretty top-down country with quite a protectionist policy.

And I'm saying wallstreet has a reputation of breaking the rules. Like a lot. Are you suggesting regulatory bodies in the US are somehow better? The whitehouse literally has a shitcoin.
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