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DoD Officially Drops 180 Faiths from Military's Recognized Religion List

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Re: DoD Officially Drops 180 Faiths from Military's Recognized Religion List

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> "The new list will provide chaplains with clear, readily available information that will better enable them to anticipate the religious support needs [...]"

Emphasis mine. In other words, "our master's degree level educated chaplains are confused by too long of a list".

We know what you are really doing and would appreciate more effort in these BS memos.

Re: DoD Officially Drops 180 Faiths from Military's Recognized Religion List

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Curious if your stance extends to the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church. Founded in 330AD, it predates all other canonization councils: The Council of Trent (1545–1563) - explicitly laid out the 73-book canon for the Catholic Church Council of Rome (382) Synod of Hippo (393) The two of the Councils of Carthage (397 and 419 respectively) Council of Florence (1431–1449) Applying your standard literally, the Ethiopian…

Nah, from a more intellectual protestant tradition -- they were not fighting doctrine and I remember at least a couple of those from Sunday sermons. None of that remotely resembles the Book of Mormon, so honestly you are just really shitty at whatever you are trying to do.

It sounds like you're ok with adding books to the bible so long as you're the one doing it. If you're not willing to accept the consequences of your own rules, they aren't rules, they're justifications.

Re: DoD Officially Drops 180 Faiths from Military's Recognized Religion List

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Uh, honest question: why would you put atheist on a list of religions? Like…leave the religion off the dog tag and that communicates enough right? What’s there to recognize? I’m super not trying to be antagonistic. I’m trying to understand why an atheist would be upset by this.

Religion provides certain benefits in the military. If you are say a Christian, you get assigned time to go to a (hopefully) air conditioned church and relax and recover. Even if it’s short, it can be beneficial to collect yourself in a high stress situation like basic training/boot camp. If you elect not to go to a religious service, you typically have to keep doing whatever you are doing. Atheists or other less org…

I guess my question is does it make sense for the US government to spend money providing church services for people who just want mental health benefits, and a break? I think believing a religion is very different from creating a religion so that you can maximize government benefits.

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#64

> The changes were iterated in a May 20, 2026, memorandum issued by the Under Secretary of War and signed by Anthony Tata, under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness of the United States, and obtained by Military.com. FFS there is no such thing as "of war". It's still "of defense" until Congress actually passes a bill. As for the rest of that topic... yeah. Fits the expectations one has these days when th…

Congress permitted them to create monikers, and they made one. It's not a hill to die on, especially because it's cringe to watch you crucify yourself

> It's not a hill to die on, especially because it's cringe to watch you crucify yourself

It absolutely is a hill to die on, because that is how fascism always starts and escalates. It's "tiny" and "petty" stuff that gets done first - think of the "Gulf of Mexico" renaming - and when that does not provoke meaningful resistance, the fascists see that as a sign to tighten the ratchet. And rather sooner than later, we see the East Wing of the White House torn down, dozens of people dead in ICE custody and Trump creating slush funds worth billions of dollars.

Re: DoD Officially Drops 180 Faiths from Military's Recognized Religion List

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Well, the New Testament (what Christians care about) is entirely set in the historical first century Roman Empire [0], all places are accurate and known to exist. The Book of Mormon postulates some fantasy world perhaps not unlike Middle Earth? And also weird theological stuff from 19th century science-fiction? Sorry, that is a different religion. [0] expect for the last book of revelations of the future.

Why do you feel it is outsiders role to tell them they are not Christians, surely it's their role to self-determine?

Why do you feel that most christian sects cannot decide they are heretics? We're not talking about some Lutheran Synod politics BS, they have this whole fantasy/scifi book and theology.

Obviously it's a free country, so they can say whatever they want.

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#66

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Nah, from a more intellectual protestant tradition -- they were not fighting doctrine and I remember at least a couple of those from Sunday sermons. None of that remotely resembles the Book of Mormon, so honestly you are just really shitty at whatever you are trying to do.

It sounds like you're ok with adding books to the bible so long as you're the one doing it. If you're not willing to accept the consequences of your own rules, they aren't rules, they're justifications.

Oh you totally got me, tips fedora.

Re: DoD Officially Drops 180 Faiths from Military's Recognized Religion List

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Is "no religion" atheist? Or is "Atheism" an organized religion now?

No religion = atheism That’s what was officially on my docs, the whole time while in the Air Force Athiesm continues to not be a religion despite religious people trying to make it stick

I don't know... The null set is still a set.

Re: DoD Officially Drops 180 Faiths from Military's Recognized Religion List

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No religion = atheism That’s what was officially on my docs, the whole time while in the Air Force Athiesm continues to not be a religion despite religious people trying to make it stick

I don't know... The null set is still a set.

Yes but that’s only half of the atheist equation

It’s saying I don’t know and also saying I do not have a belief in any particular thing

So it’s accurately:

“I don’t know what set it is and I don’t even believe in the concept of a set”

So for me I reject the concept because nobody has ever offered their definition of god with a falsifiable hypothesis

Re: DoD Officially Drops 180 Faiths from Military's Recognized Religion List

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What's the effect of this? I don't really understand why they have a "recognised" list at all or what the implications are.

They go on your dog tags to make sure that, if you're killed, your body is handled in a manner appropriate for your religious beliefs.

As I expected given who this is coming from, the choices are "Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, and Leftovers".

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