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Scientists ejected from diabetes conference for distributing journal reprints

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Re: Scientists ejected from diabetes conference for distributing journal reprints

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Science funding in the US is in crisis. We need to stand with those bold enough to point out that the emperor has no clothing.

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> own downfall by tribalist regressors.

As an outsider, it’s not clear to me who you are referring to as tribalist regressors here.

Would you mind clarifying?

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Nah. Science was not in such crises. It is literally people who want to deny uncomfortable realities that are attacking and destroying it now. The ideological anti reality issue is in the side of Trump voters. Also, funny enough, people who were correctly predicting what conservatives will do were called out of touch by people like you. Quite a few of them were actually social scientists and yes they have seen it.

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An editorial published in the (reputable) journal Diabetes Care , which they handed out at a diabetes conference. I imagine if it wasn’t critical of the administration they would not have been told to stop, but this is Louisiana so

And one of the people kicked out was Steven Kahn, a co-author of the editorial, and editor-in-chief of Diabetes Care.

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And one of the people kicked out was Steven Kahn, a co-author of the editorial, and editor-in-chief of Diabetes Care.

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You can’t talk to people like that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Nah. Science was not in such crises. It is literally people who want to deny uncomfortable realities that are attacking and destroying it now. The ideological anti reality issue is in the side of Trump voters. Also, funny enough, people who were correctly predicting what conservatives will do were called out of touch by people like you. Quite a few of them were actually social scientists and yes they have seen it.

Right, science, while not perfect (being a human endeavor), is our best mechanism for getting closer to the truth. Sure, fraud happens (occasionally). Not all "results" are a step forward. But the system is inherently self correcting. The problem is the politicization of science funding when scientific results don't fit into a dogma driven view of the world.

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> own downfall by tribalist regressors. As an outsider, it’s not clear to me who you are referring to as tribalist regressors here. Would you mind clarifying?

He means people who supported Trump. It’s not a very accurate description of them, but he has a point otherwise.

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Nah. Science was not in such crises. It is literally people who want to deny uncomfortable realities that are attacking and destroying it now. The ideological anti reality issue is in the side of Trump voters. Also, funny enough, people who were correctly predicting what conservatives will do were called out of touch by people like you. Quite a few of them were actually social scientists and yes they have seen it.

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The causal loop you mentioned makes social science hard, but I’d argue that falsification and hypothesis-driven research can still work. Otherwise all the behavioral targeting Meta and Google and co are doing would not work.

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Are you talking about science, or politics? I don't think any of this applies to diabetes research.

You're commenting under an article about politics, not about diabetes research.

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Nah. Science was not in such crises. It is literally people who want to deny uncomfortable realities that are attacking and destroying it now. The ideological anti reality issue is in the side of Trump voters. Also, funny enough, people who were correctly predicting what conservatives will do were called out of touch by people like you. Quite a few of them were actually social scientists and yes they have seen it.

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I have no idea what you are babbling about. Sure, the evolution of the climate is recorded in the geological record. Climate scientists largely understand why these geological timescale events happened. What we are now undergoing is orders-of-magnitude faster than any geologically recorded event. Except for catastrophic events like meteorite impacts and mega-vulcanism there has never been such a rapid change. And climate scientists understand why. Look in the mirror. It is us.
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