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Major P2P issues in Israel and possibly other Middle East countries

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Re: Major P2P issues in Israel and possibly other Middle East countries

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> in Israel and possibly other middle east countries Why did you leave this part of title out? For clicks?

You've been here long enough to understand that would exceed the title character limit.

I just tested it. Copied&pasted the original title into submit form.

Nope. Right within the limit.

Re: Major P2P issues in Israel and possibly other Middle East countries

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I think what we’re seeing here isnt Valve messing up but rather the middle east conflict expanded to cyberspace and spilling over to impact civilians. Look at the timing and affected countries. China isnt also exactly known for free internet. WebRTC works as fallback. WebRTC is encrypted and cant be used for much else. STUN in the otherhand is unencrypted and the protocol itself can be used for DDoS reflection/amplif…

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Calm down, he meant civilians. No need to stir up drama.

Re: Major P2P issues in Israel and possibly other Middle East countries

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've been here long enough to understand that would exceed the title character limit.

I just tested it. Copied&pasted the original title into submit form. Nope. Right within the limit.

It's so funny when people come up with these arguments so confidently and then seeing them getting disproved so quick. Bro was never more glad there's anonymity on the internet

Re: Major P2P issues in Israel and possibly other Middle East countries

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd question the idea that they treat developers poorly. Epic Games Store exists and Famously beats Steam (and others) over the head by charging only a 12% fee Hell, they even buy timed exclusive access to certain games And yet. Steam persists

I lack an informed opinion on the matter but I have to wonder what you think the one thing has to do with the other? Developers have very little choice but to go where the customers are.

Why aren't the customers going to Epic Game Store? It's the PC, after all. It's explicitly not a walled garden

Re: Major P2P issues in Israel and possibly other Middle East countries

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just tested it. Copied&pasted the original title into submit form. Nope. Right within the limit.

It's so funny when people come up with these arguments so confidently and then seeing them getting disproved so quick. Bro was never more glad there's anonymity on the internet

Your comment reads like a tweet. But I agree with you!

Re: Major P2P issues in Israel and possibly other Middle East countries

#77

> in Israel and possibly other middle east countries Why did you leave this part of title out? For clicks?

Or maybe because if there is one thing the world doesn't need, it's yet another thread devolving into flamewars about the Israel/Palestine conflict?

Re: Major P2P issues in Israel and possibly other Middle East countries

#78

> in Israel and possibly other middle east countries Why did you leave this part of title out? For clicks?

Or maybe because if there is one thing the world doesn't need, it's yet another thread devolving into flamewars about the Israel/Palestine conflict?

Then don't make this thread. One can't discuss an issue about Israel/middle east's internet connection while pretending the war doesn't exist. Technical issues don't float in a perfect vacuum sphere.

Re: Major P2P issues in Israel and possibly other Middle East countries

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My unpopular opinion: Valve is basically a parasite or a landlord. They've been so successful it's hard to imagine a world without them, and they say "you gotta give the parasite its due" and we believe them and comply. It's been kept around because they treat their customers ok, but they absolutely exsanguinate their developers. And their engineering culture is... odd. They hire senior people and then let them all f…

I'd question the idea that they treat developers poorly. Epic Games Store exists and Famously beats Steam (and others) over the head by charging only a 12% fee Hell, they even buy timed exclusive access to certain games And yet. Steam persists

The epic games launcher that famously takes 46 seconds to launch. It’s cost them 100s of millions and they refuse to fix it.

Re: Major P2P issues in Israel and possibly other Middle East countries

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or maybe because if there is one thing the world doesn't need, it's yet another thread devolving into flamewars about the Israel/Palestine conflict?

Then don't make this thread. One can't discuss an issue about Israel/middle east's internet connection while pretending the war doesn't exist. Technical issues don't float in a perfect vacuum sphere.

> Technical issues don't float in a perfect vacuum sphere.

I agree. But if there is a chance to not immediately draw in the wrong crowd... I prefer if people take it.

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