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I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

#51
You should note that Claude Design is most likely a DPO->PPO->Actor-Critic bootstrap play: https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.18290 / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximal_policy_optimization / https://spinningup.openai.com/en/latest/algorithms/sac.html

It's much harder to RL out design taste because it's not self-grounding, and human labelers have no real skin in the game, so this (having a human with a vested outcome in the process directing a model's work) is the best way to get LLMs better at design/"taste"/aesthetic judgment themselves. We were working on the same thing 7 months ago and then I realized that winning over designers to do this would be a huge uphill battle setting up an inevitable fall from grace later on.

What makes me most suspicious of Claude Design is that when you disconnect and reconnect later, it loses context and nags you that the product doesn't work like that. Bullshit. It's at best an anti-abuse/implementation detail (to keep you from launching 10 at once and coming back to them later) or product shortcoming that just so happens to be optimized for keeping you from continuing your design in better tools than theirs for the inevitable followups.

It's great for one shots and it makes sense when you're trying to build a vertical product development stack like Anthropic but I'm disappointed it feels more like a tool optimized for keeping you in their product than for what you're working on. If a company other than Anthropic had shipped this - it's not that hard to build a visual self-eval loop, just use Chrome Devtools Protocol to run headless chrome and take screenshots -> feed into a judge LLM for feedback -> continue - I don't think it would really have seen much adoption.

That said, AI trained on Actor-Critic with a tight human feedback loop definitely seems like the right approach to solving the problem, just not something I want to spend my time training for someone else unless I can do so with higher "entropy" ie high parallelism/optionality

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

#52

I’ve been using Claude Design for my front ends. The output looks and feels good enough, but the designs often look very similar and generally adhere to contemporary web tropes. Keen to hear if anyone has had unconventional creative adventures with it.

Most applications don't need unconventional creativity though.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With a huge pile of salt > In July 2025, the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) alleged that Jane Street used multiple entities for market manipulation and barred it from accessing the market.

Anyone with knowledge of Indian regulatory culture would not take this as dispositive.

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Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

#55

The benefit here is designers learning to code. It was always weird to me that designers were shaping software without knowing how it was built. I'm a designer btw. However, designing in code is technology-first. One could argue that the purpose of design - to shape the artifacts for human purpose - is better done NOT starting with the strict rules of code. Pen and paper is still hard to beat, not for anything that l…

> without knowing how it was built

It helps to understand the constraints of a medium, but you really don't need to know every level down to the electrons moving through the silicon.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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post #48

The benefit here is designers learning to code. It was always weird to me that designers were shaping software without knowing how it was built. I'm a designer btw. However, designing in code is technology-first. One could argue that the purpose of design - to shape the artifacts for human purpose - is better done NOT starting with the strict rules of code. Pen and paper is still hard to beat, not for anything that l…

But then you „design like software developers”.

What's wrong with a good cli?

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

#58

I worry about Figma stock, I know some who bought during the IPO who are now underwater. Figma launched their own design agent but not sure how well that's doing.

> I know some who bought during the IPO who are now underwater

Yeah you don't say. High of $124, currently $22. But hey: that's ~~gambling~~ stock trading for you.

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/quote/FIG/

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

#59

> Claude gave me free, unlimited iteration, unbothered when I changed my mind for the 50th time or asked for a small tweak Do you not pay for Claude?

Free with an easy monthly payment of $20!

When you are used to ordering humans around that are paid a salary measured in tens of thousands $20 seems like nothing in comparison.
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