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Can a Jellyfish Unlock the Secret of Immortality?

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Re: Can a Jellyfish Unlock the Secret of Immortality?

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Also, this fascinates me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa These are cells from a person, Henrietta Lacks, which can be grown in a dish and which keep dividing, for ever.

From Wikipedia article: "The cells were later commercialized, although never patented in their original form." Patenting a human cell? That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard.

They are patenting certain parts of DNA as we speak. It's nothing new, but it sickens me as well.

Re: Can a Jellyfish Unlock the Secret of Immortality?

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"Increasing human longevity has no meaning, it is ecological nonsense."

This is an interesting quote from the article given by another biologist Stefano Piraino, not the main focus of the article. If we did find the secret to immortality, it would be stupid to give it to everyone. In that case, who gets it?

Re: Can a Jellyfish Unlock the Secret of Immortality?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hacker News law of Betteridge's law of headlines: If the headline is applicable Betteridge's Law will always be mentioned.

That's because geeks like to back their answers with science (or almost science)

"Do geeks always back their answers with science?"

Re: Can a Jellyfish Unlock the Secret of Immortality?

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"Increasing human longevity has no meaning, it is ecological nonsense." This is an interesting quote from the article given by another biologist Stefano Piraino, not the main focus of the article. If we did find the secret to immortality, it would be stupid to give it to everyone. In that case, who gets it?

The wealthy.

Re: Can a Jellyfish Unlock the Secret of Immortality?

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Also, this fascinates me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa These are cells from a person, Henrietta Lacks, which can be grown in a dish and which keep dividing, for ever.

Fun fact: there are tons of cell lines that are "immortalized", usually using various oncogenes. You can read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_immortality

HeLa cells are certainly the most famous. It should be noted that the HeLa stocks used in most labs now are radically different from original HeLa stocks.

Even in routine experiments, you have to keep a bunch of cells frozen in liquid nitrogen to replenish your "working stock" of cells. After around 30-40 passages (e.g. generations of cells), most immortalized cell lines start to get funky with mutations and exhibit different behaviors. You kill them off and go back to your frozen stocks to get back to the "original" genetics.

Re: Can a Jellyfish Unlock the Secret of Immortality?

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"Increasing human longevity has no meaning, it is ecological nonsense." This is an interesting quote from the article given by another biologist Stefano Piraino, not the main focus of the article. If we did find the secret to immortality, it would be stupid to give it to everyone. In that case, who gets it?

People who have no kids and are sterilized permanently.

Re: Can a Jellyfish Unlock the Secret of Immortality?

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"Increasing human longevity has no meaning, it is ecological nonsense." This is an interesting quote from the article given by another biologist Stefano Piraino, not the main focus of the article. If we did find the secret to immortality, it would be stupid to give it to everyone. In that case, who gets it?

The elite - most intelligent, most beautiful, most valued members of a ruling political party. It would be a 1970s dystopian sci fi movie come to life.

Re: Can a Jellyfish Unlock the Secret of Immortality?

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Also, this fascinates me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa These are cells from a person, Henrietta Lacks, which can be grown in a dish and which keep dividing, for ever.

From Wikipedia article: "The cells were later commercialized, although never patented in their original form." Patenting a human cell? That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard.

Nobody patented "a human cell". What can get patented is the method for creating this cell line. Here's the classic (and controversial, but for different reasons) patent related to the Mo cell line (T-lymphoblasts):

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4438032.html

These cell lines do not exist in nature and what is patented was the creation of a new immortalized cell line.

Re: Can a Jellyfish Unlock the Secret of Immortality?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because geeks like to back their answers with science (or almost science)

"Do geeks always back their answers with science?"

"Can all headlines that are questions be answered with no?"
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