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Re: You Can Run

#41

> John was strict and controlling. He wanted his daughters to dress in identical clothing embroidered with their initials, and told them to wear their hair long, that it looked more ladylike than a popular bob cut. He wrote down chores for everyone in the family on sheets of yellow legal paper. Erin and Meredith got lists of books to read and words to memorize. The house had about a dozen phones, and John instructed…

I wouldn't call that completely normal. It's certainly strict and controlling.

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#42

Wow, that was quite a lot of cryptic build-up. It’s basically a story about conman/drug guy interwoven with biographical information and anecdotes about how this impacted his family. “You can run,” I guess maybe in the context of “You can run but you can’t hide” is not really touched upon too much. I mean it doesn’t have a particular connection to this story, any more than any other story about a fugitive.

Damn, I thought this was going to be a guide to getting into running for exercise. Yes, I know there are lots of those around, but if this one made the front page of HN then maybe it had something interesting about it, or it was particularly well written or something.

Re: You Can Run

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post #22

Wow, that was quite a lot of cryptic build-up. It’s basically a story about conman/drug guy interwoven with biographical information and anecdotes about how this impacted his family. “You can run,” I guess maybe in the context of “You can run but you can’t hide” is not really touched upon too much. I mean it doesn’t have a particular connection to this story, any more than any other story about a fugitive.

Have you ever like, read books? Why on earth would you think the title of a piece needs to call to anything but a general emotion from the story? > Wow, that was quite a lot of cryptic build-up. Yes, they were building suspense and telling an interesting story. It's a long form article, not a 30-word tweet. Jesus.

It might be a nice truecrime story (I’m not sure actually, they aren’t my cup of tea). I read along figuring it’d have some HN-related twist eventually, but it didn’t. So I thought I’d provide a heads up.

Re: You Can Run

#44
post #42

Wow, that was quite a lot of cryptic build-up. It’s basically a story about conman/drug guy interwoven with biographical information and anecdotes about how this impacted his family. “You can run,” I guess maybe in the context of “You can run but you can’t hide” is not really touched upon too much. I mean it doesn’t have a particular connection to this story, any more than any other story about a fugitive.

Damn, I thought this was going to be a guide to getting into running for exercise. Yes, I know there are lots of those around, but if this one made the front page of HN then maybe it had something interesting about it, or it was particularly well written or something.

Or something about politics. Or schedulers.

Re: You Can Run

#45
post #22

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Have you ever like, read books? Why on earth would you think the title of a piece needs to call to anything but a general emotion from the story? > Wow, that was quite a lot of cryptic build-up. Yes, they were building suspense and telling an interesting story. It's a long form article, not a 30-word tweet. Jesus.

I've seen this attitude on HN all the time - the concept of "a narrative hook" is apparently a foreign concept here

"Narrative hook" is more often than not a sign of a weak writer. The story could also have started with: "Before they learned that their father was a drug dealer, the following happened:"

Re: You Can Run

#46
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They more or less did that during the bombing of London, children were evacuated to foster families in the countryside en masse. Luckily they came to terms with the fact that this was an insanely traumatic experience pretty quickly and reverted. It's literally less traumatic for a child to be in an active war zone than to be separated from their parents.

Unless the child is killed in said active war zone, which was the maximally traumatic outcome they were trying to avoid. Some evacuation was reverted, but there were also later waves; I don't think it was clear that it was overall the wrong thing given the very possible outcomes of heavier bombing or even invasion.

Well obviously dead child suffer no trauma.

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That's weird. I don't have this with the Bible. But maybe I haven't read those passages. Do you have some examples?

How is it possible to not be familiar with this common criticism? e.g., Leviticus prohibits wearing clothes woven of two different types of fabric and calls for killing adulterers, anyone who curses their parents, etc. etc. which millions of cherry pickers ignore while constantly referring to the bit about laying with a man as with a woman.

I think it's extremely possible to be familiar with the criticism without ever having seen specific examples. I certainly haven't. I guess I assumed it was something to do with people misunderstanding the difference between new and old testament, or something to that effect.

Your comment also does not seem to present any examples of this. You start talking about it, but then you move on to complaining about cherry-pickers instead of showing some other part of the old testament which happens to encourage wearing clothes woven of two different types or not killing adulterers or something.

Re: You Can Run

#48
post #26

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You can't quote that without also quoting: Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. -- Exodus 34:7

This is literally true now that we understand epigenetics a bit more.

Do you have any references on this? My understanding is that it’s in kind of a similar boat with intergenerational trauma that quantum mechanics is with certain schools of philosophy, and that the actual science of epigenetics supports a much more limited scope (responding to e.g famine and other current stressors in utero), so anything that could fall into the intergenerational realm would need to be passed down through the normal evolutionary process of populations experiencing selective pressure.

Re: You Can Run

#49

Ah to live in the 70s and 80s where nothing was verifiable. I probably would still have been a model employee but the possibilities were endless.

The 90s weren't so different, nor earlier decades, centuries. In fact, the positioning here irritates me:

  The McCanns vanished, as did Sally and Steve. It wasn’t that hard; they were living in the golden age of fugitives.
It makes it sound as though the anomaly were not the past two decades, but all of recorded history which preceded them.

Re: You Can Run

#50
post #17

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You can't quote that without also quoting: Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. -- Exodus 34:7

Why not?

One aspect of what I'm trying to share is that it is a bit of a stretch to quote one Bible verse expecting others to accept a one sentence summary of the context as sufficient explanation to apply the verse to a topic.
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