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Ntsc-rs – open-source video emulation of analog TV and VHS artifacts

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To have true VHS effect, I think we should train AI for this, examples from digital videos to record on true VHS tape, on multiples VHS devices then digitalize and calculate difference between original and digitalized from VHS. Then even we could have filter like: VHS Panasonic, VHS Sony... This would be very interesting project.

Can't you just cut out the AI from this pipeline by recording footage onto VHS and then digitizing that?

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post #23

To have true VHS effect, I think we should train AI for this, examples from digital videos to record on true VHS tape, on multiples VHS devices then digitalize and calculate difference between original and digitalized from VHS. Then even we could have filter like: VHS Panasonic, VHS Sony... This would be very interesting project.

I might argue that generating and decoding an actual NTSC signal, as the OP project does, would be true in ways that a generative model based on all of that would not be.

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post #23

To have true VHS effect, I think we should train AI for this, examples from digital videos to record on true VHS tape, on multiples VHS devices then digitalize and calculate difference between original and digitalized from VHS. Then even we could have filter like: VHS Panasonic, VHS Sony... This would be very interesting project.

Can't you just cut out the AI from this pipeline by recording footage onto VHS and then digitizing that?

I think the idea would be allowing arbitrary videos to be converted without the need for a working tape drive

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Time to wheel out one of my favorite quotes about the signature of a medium:

"Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature. CD distortion, the jitteriness of digital video, the crap sound of 8-bit - all of these will be cherished and emulated as soon as they can be avoided. It’s the sound of failure: so much modern art is the sound of things going out of control, of a medium pushing to its limits and breaking apart. The distorted guitar sound is the sound of something too loud for the medium supposed to carry it. The blues singer with the cracked voice is the sound of an emotional cry too powerful for the throat that releases it. The excitement of grainy film, of bleached-out black and white, is the excitement of witnessing events too momentous for the medium assigned to record them." - Brian Eno

Re: Ntsc-rs – open-source video emulation of analog TV and VHS artifacts

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post #34

Time to wheel out one of my favorite quotes about the signature of a medium: "Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature. CD distortion, the jitteriness of digital video, the crap sound of 8-bit - all of these will be cherished and emulated as soon as they can be avoided. It’s the sound of failure: so much modern art is the sound of things going out…

I never heard of this quote, but "heard" something similar a while ago, must have been 2020.

I was watching a live worship session on Youtube and it was beautiful, kept my mind at peace.

Now mind you at the same time I was also a perfectionist, which means you tend to see imperfections in others.

Now at a certain point the singer's voice broke as she was hitting a high note. But before I could mentally register the imperfection I heard or felt such a clear gentle voice that said: "that was the most beautiful part".

In an instant it reframed the imperfect into perfect for that moment and thus forever.

And that's what your quote encompasses. Good read, thanks for sharing.

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post #35
post #34

Time to wheel out one of my favorite quotes about the signature of a medium: "Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature. CD distortion, the jitteriness of digital video, the crap sound of 8-bit - all of these will be cherished and emulated as soon as they can be avoided. It’s the sound of failure: so much modern art is the sound of things going out…

I never heard of this quote, but "heard" something similar a while ago, must have been 2020. I was watching a live worship session on Youtube and it was beautiful, kept my mind at peace. Now mind you at the same time I was also a perfectionist, which means you tend to see imperfections in others. Now at a certain point the singer's voice broke as she was hitting a high note. But before I could mentally register the i…

In the same vein, the most beautiful part of Patti Smith performing "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall" at Nobel Prize Award Ceremony is when she mistakes the lyrics. Whenever I need to cry, I watch that video.

Re: Ntsc-rs – open-source video emulation of analog TV and VHS artifacts

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Just installed the OpenFX plugin and tested in DaVinci. It runs snappy and looks awesome with tons of control. It can go from subtle to soup. It really starts getting interesting when you automate the params. Appreciate that this is rooted in actual emulation. I'll definitely use this in my edits. Good find!

Re: Ntsc-rs – open-source video emulation of analog TV and VHS artifacts

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post #34

Time to wheel out one of my favorite quotes about the signature of a medium: "Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature. CD distortion, the jitteriness of digital video, the crap sound of 8-bit - all of these will be cherished and emulated as soon as they can be avoided. It’s the sound of failure: so much modern art is the sound of things going out…

I'm familiar with the quote. Still don't like this nostalgia-esque recreation. As someone that spent many hours in edit bays dealing with these tape based artifacts, seeing them now is not nostalgic but brings out a Pavlovian response nearly PTSD like triggering. However, I do understand why others less in the trenches of trying to avoid these types of issues would want it.

Re: Ntsc-rs – open-source video emulation of analog TV and VHS artifacts

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post #34

Time to wheel out one of my favorite quotes about the signature of a medium: "Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature. CD distortion, the jitteriness of digital video, the crap sound of 8-bit - all of these will be cherished and emulated as soon as they can be avoided. It’s the sound of failure: so much modern art is the sound of things going out…

> "Whatever you now find weird, ugly, uncomfortable and nasty about a new medium will surely become its signature [...]

I bet the first viewers of VHS were busier with marveling at color, compactness and convenience instead of thinking of the new medium as something ugly and nasty. New technology that gets very popular usually starts as state of the art and impressive, and it's only in retrospect that people think of it in condescending way.

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