I remember when orange people would flag your comments whenever you mentioned Mossad spying on people
Mazel Tov!
Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say
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USA almost certainly spies on Israel (and everyone else) far deeper than anyone spies on them.
Since the 1951 Angleton-Harel Secret Pact, there has been an unwritten agreement that CIA and Mossad will not spy on each others countries. Kiriakou (who is a wonk) confirmed as much in recent remarks. But no one without at least a TS really knows
Kiriakou also stated several times that the Mossad was known to casually try to recruit CIA agents:
Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say
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They sure do, but looking at recent events, you can make an educated guess on which country has more influence over the other. Part of it can be attributed to spying and knowing dark? secrets.
> They sure do Do you have an example?
Given that US spies on other countries, including allies (countless examples), I wouldn't rule out them spying on Israel either.
Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
USA almost certainly spies on Israel (and everyone else) far deeper than anyone spies on them.
Since the 1951 Angleton-Harel Secret Pact, there has been an unwritten agreement that CIA and Mossad will not spy on each others countries. Kiriakou (who is a wonk) confirmed as much in recent remarks. But no one without at least a TS really knows
He has CIA experience but his word shouldn't just be taken at face value. The man has unsettling views on buying pardons and excuses some other things away as well. Kiriakou shouldn't be trusted, IMO.
That said, he probably isn't wrong at all about this particular thing.
Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
USA almost certainly spies on Israel (and everyone else) far deeper than anyone spies on them.
Since the 1951 Angleton-Harel Secret Pact, there has been an unwritten agreement that CIA and Mossad will not spy on each others countries. Kiriakou (who is a wonk) confirmed as much in recent remarks. But no one without at least a TS really knows
There's written legislation saying the CIA/NSA/etc. can't spy on Americans.
Guess what happens anyways?
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I hate that people will take “political blackmail is real” and jump to “the moon landing wasn’t real”
I've heard very few if any "conspiracy theorists" talk about sexual blackmail because it's boring. The appeal of a conspiracy is that it grabs people's attention. And there are certain types of attention whores who will spout theories about flat earth, or fake moon landing, because it gets them instant attention and engagement. This is what I think the GP meant, that s/he hates that these people were "right" about politicians being compromised.
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> everyone knew was a bad idea It was a good idea if it was also timed during the popular uprisings. But the 20,000+ die-hard citizens that would have effected regime change were slaughtered months ago. So now it's just a scared populace hunkering in place while USA warships and jets dominate their country. And the Iranians fire off the occasional drone swarm on UAE.
It was also a bad idea then. They could never have effected regime change. That’s a fantasy that Israel included in its pressure on the US, but which US intelligence deemed highly implausible. There was never a world where this was a good idea. We had a diplomatic agreement that worked, nuked it for no gain, and now there isn’t a viable way to influence Iran. Diplomacy can’t function again because they don’t trust th…
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Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say
#99Legitimate question, what would Israel need that we don’t already openly provide?
Trump doesn't let Bibi bomb Lebanon and doesn't fight to the last American in Iran
> Trump doesn't let Bibi bomb Lebanon
Sure he does. They did it today!
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#100"Government suddenly and confusingly starts acting accordingly to what everyone's already know for a long time." This is really quite scary when you think about it. Why now all of a sudden?
Probably because Trump had a heated conversation with Netanyahu and this is some sort of “consequence”.