We are all fooling ourselves if we don't consider that Israel is interfering in our elections too.
The Thomas Massie situation is extremely suspicious.
Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say
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#82Don't miss the attempt of the removal of Section 224 of the US NDAA at the same time, a polarizing development in discussions on Israel, to put it mildly.
https://www.aipac.org/memos/america-israel-defense-ndaa-224
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2026/06...
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/us-israel-military-congres...
Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say
#83"Government suddenly and confusingly starts acting accordingly to what everyone's already know for a long time." This is really quite scary when you think about it. Why now all of a sudden?
maybe someone in China, put 2 million and 2 million together and hired themselves a zionist genocider baby killer on the make!
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
AIPAC publicly brags about this. https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/aipac-says-it-was-pro... https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/comments/1ry8tha/aipac_ope...
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This is a non-sequitur. It's an "American" organization whose sole purpose is to lobby the US government on behalf of the interests of a foreign government. It should register as a foreign agent as should all its employees because that's exactly how they behave and why they exist.
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#85Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say
#86if your boss suddenly asks you to carry a pager, do not accept it.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
USA almost certainly spies on Israel (and everyone else) far deeper than anyone spies on them.
They sure do, but looking at recent events, you can make an educated guess on which country has more influence over the other. Part of it can be attributed to spying and knowing dark? secrets.
> They sure do
Do you have an example?
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe this is a bit glib, but it's because attacking Iran (which everyone knew was a bad idea but which presumably seemed useful as a distraction) turned out to be a bad idea. So the administration is taking it out on Israel, who wanted us to do it.
> everyone knew was a bad idea It was a good idea if it was also timed during the popular uprisings. But the 20,000+ die-hard citizens that would have effected regime change were slaughtered months ago. So now it's just a scared populace hunkering in place while USA warships and jets dominate their country. And the Iranians fire off the occasional drone swarm on UAE.
It was also a bad idea then. They could never have effected regime change. That’s a fantasy that Israel included in its pressure on the US, but which US intelligence deemed highly implausible.
There was never a world where this was a good idea. We had a diplomatic agreement that worked, nuked it for no gain, and now there isn’t a viable way to influence Iran.
Diplomacy can’t function again because they don’t trust the US (fair, correct.)
The IRGC cannot be replaced without a ground invasion, which the US won’t do (fair, correct.)
The US can’t unilaterally remove one ton of buried nuclear material from the middle of a hostile state.
This was always stupid.
Re: Pentagon raised threat of Israeli spying on U.S. to highest level, sources say
#89I really dislike when a tiny fraction of the conspiracy theories become true since it validates people who believe in them. But I have to admit I do have one of my own, pegasus and related spyware can gain a lot of power over politicians i.e. blackmail which makes me think about how much of our politics are based solely on the fact that politicians often find themselves exploiting their powers and then possibly getti…
I don't believe blackmail is the most effective thing. The problem with blackmail is that even if you do as the blackmailer says, they still have the threat hanging over you forever. That increases the risk that they do something desperate. What is effective, isn't blackmail, but complicity. Doing bad things together. Then you get a shared interest. The people Epstein had blackmail on, knew that he wouldn't use it ca…
I think what made Epstein effective was balancing the blackmail with favors for complying. If all you do is get dirt on people, eventually it will fail. But if you give them something too, they are less resentful.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Might be an attempt to correct history after the bad fact. There are huge budgets nowadays set up to correct public opinion, e.g. https://www.timesofisrael.com/foreign-ministry-to-receive-ma... Edit: a more recent article mentions a budget of $730M: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-just-quintupled-its-pr-...
But everyone has such budgets, so you could easily argue there's an attempt to revise history in both directions. And I can assure you the sum of the Chinese, Russian, Iranian and gulf budgets far surpass that of Israel's.
Sorry, the linked article shared above is from 2024. Here's a more recent one with a much larger budget for their state propaganda:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-just-quintupled-its-pr-...
Not sure if Russia, China and the others you mention spend more (totalled) than $730M?